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1. Re: Type On Path Spacing Problem
Wade_Zimmerman Feb 17, 2010 2:28 PM (in response to Chris Vreeland)zDoes not effect it that way in CS 4 so the way probably to fix it if it is broken is to upgrade to CS 4
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2. Re: Type On Path Spacing Problem
tromboniator Feb 17, 2010 3:01 PM (in response to Chris Vreeland)Chris,
It's not 10.5. I'm in 10.6.2, same issue. I think it's CS3. Using Type on a Path is always a frustrating experience, and I have to re-invent the wheel every time.
Peter
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3. Re: Type On Path Spacing Problem
Chris Vreeland Feb 17, 2010 3:39 PM (in response to Wade_Zimmerman)It works intermittently if I keep the text endpoints all the way at the ends of the path, center the paragraph and don't move the center point, it functions, sometimes.
As far as upgrading, I may as well wait for CS 5, since it seems pretty close to release.
Thanks!
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4. Re: Type On Path Spacing Problem
Skullmaker Feb 18, 2010 10:27 AM (in response to Wade_Zimmerman)Wade,
You have no shame!
Did you tell Chris that Adobe is not longer providing updates and CS4 have serious bugs (a lot more worse that he is experiencing).
I cannot believe how dishonest you are with people who needs help.
Now he will buy CS5 without knowing that Adobe refuses to fix its buggy versions. You have no shame!
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5. Re: Type On Path Spacing Problem
Chris Vreeland Feb 18, 2010 11:59 AM (in response to Skullmaker)Now he will buy CS5 without knowing that Adobe refuses to fix its buggy versions. You have no shame!
No worries about that. I still have my Photoshop 3 diskettes and my Illustrator 5 CD -- I've been upgrading since 1994 and yes, I've watched Illustrator get more bloated and buggy since at least V.8.
As long as my clients keep sending me Illustrator files, then since I'm primarily a pre-press operator as far as how I use AI professionally, I'll keep on upgrading when necessary.
I think I've about milked the ol' G5 as far as I can, and figure it's getting to be time to go Intel, 10.6, & hopefully 64 bit & multi-cpu-aware. Hey, a guy can dream, right?
If I buy an 8-core tower and Illustrator CS5 leaves seven of them sitting idle though, I might just kick a chair, or something. :-)
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6. Re: Type On Path Spacing Problem
Harron K. Appleman Feb 18, 2010 12:23 PM (in response to Chris Vreeland)I'd start lining up some chairs.
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7. Re: Type On Path Spacing Problem
Chris Vreeland Feb 19, 2010 10:19 AM (in response to Harron K. Appleman)Harron K. Appleman wrote:
I'd start lining up some chairs.
Do you know something specific, or are you just guessing that AI is going to remain a single-CPU app for the forseeable future? I don't see how, with CPU clock speed stalled, and Adobe glomming on features like chrome on a low rider, how they expect it to perform on a single core.
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8. Re: Type On Path Spacing Problem
Harron K. Appleman Feb 20, 2010 3:07 PM (in response to Chris Vreeland)I do not have any specific information. I am guessing based on the resources Adobe appears to have been investing in Illustrator these past few versions. It wouldn't surprise me to learn Illustrator will one day be folded into InDesign as a corporate cost-cutting measure... if not at CS5, then perhaps in another 18 months down the road. Adobe will do the math on taking Illustrator's aging, bloated code base into the world of 64-bit multicore processing versus just dumping it. Customer needs will be a small part of the equation.
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9. Re: Type On Path Spacing Problem
Chris Vreeland Feb 22, 2010 7:41 AM (in response to Harron K. Appleman)Harron K. Appleman wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me to learn Illustrator will one day be folded into InDesign as a corporate cost-cutting measure...
I could maybe get behind this idea if it would mean Illustrator design functionality combined with InDesign print functionality. AI's print dialog, while not horrible, is miles behind InDesign's in basic usability.
The main reason I still print directly from AI is the ability to use the artwork bounding area to define page size, which allows me to pretty much ignore document page size settings & save film at the same time.
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10. Re: Type On Path Spacing Problem
Wade_Zimmerman Feb 22, 2010 7:50 AM (in response to Chris Vreeland)ID and AI have the same print dialog!
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11. Re: Type On Path Spacing Problem
Chris Vreeland Feb 22, 2010 8:01 AM (in response to Wade_Zimmerman)Wade_Zimmerman wrote:
ID and AI have the same print dialog!
Well, they may look the same, but there's subtle functionality differences, in CS3, at least. AI doesn't remember some things that InDesign does, and it's easier to move through dialogs and settings in InDesign -- for instance, when you turn off CMYK colors in AI, (if you have a cmyk object you don't want to print) it turns them back on, but InDesign remembers this. Also, if you've got more spot colors than will fit in the Output> Document Ink Options window in Illustrator, and you get the resultant scroll bar, there's some buggy behavior when trying to change line screen and angle settings that you don't see in InDesign. Also, in InDesign, you can tab through these settings, but AI requires clicking. Illustrator also forgets things that InDesign remembers when you switch printers, like resolution.
These are CS3 observations -- maybe it's fixed in CS4. Like I've stated upthread though, I'm going to wait to upgrade until CS5 is released, since it's pretty close. I'm really not complaining -- just making observations, and musing about the future of Illustrator.
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12. Re: Type On Path Spacing Problem
Skullmaker Feb 22, 2010 5:54 PM (in response to Chris Vreeland)It looks like Adobe is letting Illustrator die. No updates, a lot of bugs and no real improvements or features over the last version.
I still do things with CS2 that CS3 and CS4 cannot do (simple fact: extra anchor point bug) and the only real difference is that CS4 can handle multiple boards. Not really a great thing to buy a version with more bugs.
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13. Re: Type On Path Spacing Problem
Wade_Zimmerman Feb 22, 2010 8:09 PM (in response to Skullmaker)Let's see what you are missing out on in CS 4
Turn on and off effects
Turn on and off fills from the appearance panel
select stroke weights and options directly from the appearance panel
select fills directly from the Appearance Panel
Gradients with transparent colors
Gradient annotator
Blob brush which seems popular with former FH users
My favorite Application frames
Clipping masks hide clipped regions align to clip
New Smart Guide info
Multiple Artboards
Drag and drop fro the desktop or finder.
Better device N support.
What do you think Hans? There is a trial version you cand download.
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14. Re: Type On Path Spacing Problem
Skullmaker Feb 22, 2010 10:41 PM (in response to Chris Vreeland)Chris,
I am glad to hear your are on top of things.
I like the idea of skipping versions. There is not real improvement over the old versions (only the amount of bugs that Adobe wont care to fix). Probably we can skip 3 or 4 versions. We save money, and we will not be so upset with the bugs that Adobe refuse to fix.
That is a good idea! Thank you!
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15. Re: Type On Path Spacing Problem
Wade_Zimmerman Feb 23, 2010 9:39 AM (in response to Skullmaker)Actually that does make sense for many users and often users only upgrade when a feature they find that they need has been implemented.
And many users just skip a version just as a money saving practice but i think they might do it anyway even if it were not about saving money.
Users also do this with the OS as well.
My computer might need to be replace just because it is 3 years old but unless i see something significant I might just get MacBook Pro.




