4 Replies Latest reply on Oct 2, 2007 5:55 AM by Newsgroup_User

    Disappearing Design Elements

    davinciwoman
      I’m trying to import a site created in the OS9/Classic application, PageMill 3.0--(I know, don’t say it). DreamWeaver DOES NOT LIKE a PageMill-generated site.

      When I opened the index.htm page directly from within DreamWeaver, it took text that I had in the several-screens long table that is about 800 (whatever's) wide and erased the table boundary so the text goes all the way across the screen to whatever width the window is.

      So, I created a new table, about 750 wide and made a background colour to go behind it. Everything was going fine as long as I DRAGGED the text, graphics and other one- or two-celled tables up into it. (Copying and pasting made things go wonky right off the bat.) Then, I get about 3/4 of the way down the page and suddenly, I can’t see what’s on the page below where I just pasted! It just disappears.

      I’ve tried scrolling up and down, erasing the background colour, refreshing, closing the document, quitting the program, even restarting my computer, everything.

      The page includes photos, links to other pages in the site as well as a link to a Paypal shopping cart. This is all currently working fine online in the PageMill-generated site, but I needed to switch to DreamWeaver because I’ve gotten an Intel mac.

      Does anyone have any idea WHY this is happening? Is it a common occurrence? I do NOT program in html, so please don’t tell me to go and look at the code and see what’s going on. I’m strictly a gui-girl.

      Confused and at the end of my digital rope,

      Davinciwoman
        • 1. Re: Disappearing Design Elements
          Level 7
          On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:46:13 +0000 (UTC), "davinciwoman"
          <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

          >I?m trying to import a site created in the OS9/Classic application, PageMill
          >3.0--(I know, don?t say it). DreamWeaver DOES NOT LIKE a PageMill-generated
          >site.
          >

          you need to give us the url so we can look at it

          >
          > Does anyone have any idea WHY this is happening? Is it a common occurrence? I
          >do NOT program in html, so please don?t tell me to go and look at the code and
          >see what?s going on. I?m strictly a gui-girl.

          The reason is in the code - sorry.

          It will be a very frustrating business within looking at the code
          --

          ~Malcolm N....
          ~
          • 2. Re: Disappearing Design Elements
            davinciwoman Level 1
            Thanks for your offer of help, Malcolm.

            This is the current url: http://www.secretsofdogobedience.com. (The one created in PageMill.)

            The file that I've tried to update is renamed indexscrewy.htm and is at http://www.secretsofdogobedience.com/indexscrewy.htm.

            I closed everything after my post and tried to re-open it. In the DW interface, it looks messed up. Most of the text and some of the small tables are left-justified. When I open it in the browser, it looks okay right down to the place I cannot even see within DW (after Super Bonus #2). Notice also how the text below that is centered even though I had left justified it.

            I don't expect anyone to spend a lot of time on this. Just please let me know what you think seems to be the main problem and if it can be fixed. I guess that DreamWeaver isn't as non-programmer-friendly as I was lead to believe.

            Thanks,

            dw
            • 3. Re: Disappearing Design Elements
              Level 7
              Whoever gave you the impression that DW would be a suitable tool for someone
              with no knowledge of HTML/CSS was mistaken.

              Your indexscrewy page has 72 validation 'events' on it -

              http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://www.secretsofdogobedience.com/indexscre wy.htm

              so it's not really a surprise that it may look goofy in Dreamweaver, which
              likes to see valid HTML. Some of those 72 events are just warnings, and
              wouldn't cause rendering problems (like the missing alt attributes on your
              images), but others relate to frank code errors on the page - like
              improperly nested tags, or opening tags without their corresponding closing
              tags. Unfortunately, wading through them without knowledge of HTML is going
              to be difficult.

              If this code was created by PageMill, it's easy to see why that application
              disappeared. To be honest with you, I think you'd be better off starting
              this page over from scratch. Sorry.

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              "davinciwoman" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
              news:fdt48g$2k2$1@forums.macromedia.com...
              > Thanks for your offer of help, Malcolm.
              >
              > This is the current url: http://www.secretsofdogobedience.com. (The one
              > created in PageMill.)
              >
              > The file that I've tried to update is renamed indexscrewy.htm and is at
              > http://www.secretsofdogobedience.com/indexscrewy.htm.
              >
              > I closed everything after my post and tried to re-open it. In the DW
              > interface, it looks messed up. Most of the text and some of the small
              > tables
              > are left-justified. When I open it in the browser, it looks okay right
              > down to
              > the place I cannot even see within DW (after Super Bonus #2). Notice also
              > how
              > the text below that is centered even though I had left justified it.
              >
              > I don't expect anyone to spend a lot of time on this. Just please let me
              > know
              > what you think seems to be the main problem and if it can be fixed. I
              > guess
              > that DreamWeaver isn't as non-programmer-friendly as I was lead to
              > believe.
              >
              > Thanks,
              >
              > dw
              >


              • 4. Re: Disappearing Design Elements
                Level 7
                On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:50:08 +0000 (UTC), "davinciwoman"
                <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

                >Thanks for your offer of help, Malcolm.
                >
                > This is the current url: http://www.secretsofdogobedience.com. (The one
                >created in PageMill.)
                >
                > The file that I've tried to update is renamed indexscrewy.htm and is at
                > http://www.secretsofdogobedience.com/indexscrewy.htm.
                >
                > I closed everything after my post and tried to re-open it. In the DW
                >interface, it looks messed up. Most of the text and some of the small tables
                >are left-justified. When I open it in the browser, it looks okay right down to
                >the place I cannot even see within DW (after Super Bonus #2). Notice also how
                >the text below that is centered even though I had left justified it.
                >
                > I don't expect anyone to spend a lot of time on this. Just please let me know
                >what you think seems to be the main problem and if it can be fixed. I guess
                >that DreamWeaver isn't as non-programmer-friendly as I was lead to believe.
                >
                > Thanks,
                >
                > dw


                It's one huge page within one table - and several nested tables - so
                difficult to see the precise problem without spending a lot of time on
                it - sorry.

                Maybe you could break it down into several smaller tables or better
                still pages.

                I fear you will get very frustrated without a knowledge of html and
                css. So I'd suggest getting someone to help you - if it as business -
                well it deserves a professional just like your cars servicing / or
                plumber to fix the water / heating.

                If you want to continue to do your own website - there's no getting
                around learning some html and these days css.


                --

                ~Malcolm N....
                ~