There are two issues here let's take the clipping.
You can make a clipping mask.
Select the rectangle tool and draw a rectangle to the size of the box place it over the art work or draw it in place
select all the art and the rectangle
Either hit Command and 7 of Object>Clipping Mask>Make
Now there is an easy way to make the step and repeat only it is actually hard to do correct, depending on the accuracy of the repeat and the type of repeat.
You can simply drag the art to the swatch panel and make it a swatch now you can use that swatch to fill any area.
However of course since it is a clipping mask and it will honor the underlying art that extends beyond the clip then it has to have the transparncy flattened.
Object>Flatten Transparency and then it can be made to be a swatch that will repeat correctly. However you have to draw it so the repeat matches.
Another way is the select the clipping mask without flattening the transparency and use the Effect>Distort and Transform>Transform and us the adjustments to make the art move to the desired position and make the required number of copies.
You have to do this in two steps one for horizontal moves and the otherfro vertical.
This design is going to be used for a repeat textile/fabric design.I am trying to trace JUST the inside of the middle square, since it is all I need at this point. BUT, since everything extends outside of the box, I'm having a hard time tracing just to the edge. Does this make sense?
Preparing the artwork, (at least) the (easiest) way to get a correct repetition with a pattern tile, is to:
1) Create each individual shape (top/bottom, mid, left/right flower, long pointed leaf goind below all of them, etc) in full, regardless of its position partially/wholly within in the pattern;
2) Place each individual shape relative to the pattern tile (partially/wholly within it);
3) Create a copy of each and place it exactly one tile width/height up/down and/or left/right, repeating until the whole pattern tile is filled.
In other words, you recreate a larger portion of the artwork, only using identical parts.
With this, you ensure an unbroken smooth flow of the artwork. Then
4) Apply the Clipping Mask as described. At least in older versions, you will have tochoose anything but Normal in the Transparency palette/panel before you Object>Flatten Transparency, and use 100% Vector.
Oh, and if you can place the Pattern Tile/Clipping Mask so that a possible misalignment in the production process hurts the least.
If you can cheat a little and move the left/right flower a tiny bit to the right, you may make a vertical cut between the flowers, just between the left/rigt and top/bottom one where the tipped leaf passes over the other leaf (that would cut 8 simple/single paths only, 5 of them being the tipped leaf which is unavoidable wherever you cut); otherwise, you can make that cut through the centre of the centre of the central flower, or to the left of it.
The horizontal cut could be a bit above the central flower, (cutting 6 simple/single paths only, 4 of them being the tipped leaf).
Wow, thank you so much! I am surprised that anyone knew how to do a repeat!
You are welcome, Roxanne.
Many here do, I believe.
I would probably draw the lines to have them as vector objects. Shouldn't take
too long and you'd have superb control over it.
Thanks, you mean, draw the lines of the square to keep each piece of the design as a closed path? I was thinking that.
I hope you are aware that my suggestion in posts #2&3 imply the creation of vector paths with an appropriate tool, preferably the Pen Tool, drawing on top of the image, which is locked and maybe set to a reduced transparency (the Opacity setting in the Transparency panel).
I still believe the tiling should be done last so you may move the square path round for best fit with least mess caused by possible misalignment, and that it should not form part of the artwork..
Oh, ok. I re-read it and I see what you mean. Thank you!
You are welcome, Roxanne; and I apologize for my being too obscure.
Hi again, so, I'm wondering, how do I get rid of the lines after I've cropped the image. As you can see, they are still there. Even though they are invisible.
You could use the pathfinder panel to actually cut away the
unnecessary lines instead of using a clipping mask. Maybe use the
same rectangle as you would for clipping, but use the divide function
instead and delete away the extra line segments.
Hi, thank you! I'm pretty new at this, and, to save me from looking up the pathfinder in my book, do you have a Mac, and are you able to do a screen-shot of where I would go to find the pathfinder masking tool, and where the divide tool is? Thanks so much!
Windows>Pathfinder that will open the Pathfinder Panel in the Panel the divide icon is the bottom left most icon.
You really though should read up about the pathfinder and about the Live Paint Feature because these both can work for you.
After you "divide" the objects, everything will be grouped. Ungroup them and then you can delete the unwanted pieces.
Ok, this is a weird question. Do you have a way to look at this remotely as I do it? If I invite you as a guest on my computer? My ex used to do that when I was in LA and he was in NY.
No thank you, I am a married man.
Really it only takes a little practice. Try using the Pathfinder panel with basic shapes before you tackle this complex tiled pattern. Here is a tutorial that might get you started:
Thank you! So, when I click on the divide, and it is dividing multiple paths, will it actually cut through each of the paths? I can't seem to make it work so far!
So, when I click on the divide, and it is dividing multiple paths, will it actually cut through each of the paths? I can't seem to make it work so far!
The paths have to overlap or have coinciding end Anchor Points.
You should be aware that Divide has an incurable habit of murdering (different) Stroke Weights; depending on the nature of the artwork, it has an uncanny preference for None or the same as the topmost object.
Also, it has a habit of making closed paths, so you are likely to end up with your tile border being part of a number of closed stroked paths, thus strikingly invisible.
That's exactly what it does, except it leaves all the pieces grouped
together when it is done. Ungroup by hitting CMDSHIFTG. All the
parts are still there, but they've been cut apart into segments based
on your cutting shape.
As far as closing paths and changing stroke weights, she'd probably
be done with her illustration by the time she's ready to tile it into
a pattern. In that case she could just use Object>Expand and make all
the strokes solid fills beforehand.
@ artgarden71, just make sure to save a copy of your full drawing
(maybe just off to the side of the artboard would be fine), as
expanding strokes is irreversible. You might need to go back to your
original if you ever need to make changes later.
You should be aware that Divide has an incurable habit of murdering
(different) Stroke Weights.
In addition to post #21:
You may use Pathfinder>Divide and amend changes in Stroke Weight, but then you will have to delete all unnecessary paths and cut the remaining ones at the Anchor Points placed on the dividing square so you may delete the straight parts between them.
Edit: Hi JM.
In that case she could just use Object>Expand and make all the strokes solid fills beforehand.
But that is exactly what happens when the Clipping Mask is flattened and why it has its bad reputation as a dirty destructive deed; and taking those steps into consideration, the Clipping Mask seems simpler.
Wow, you guys. Thanks so much, really. I can never seem to get the exact info I need in those manuals, which is why I was procrastinating on opening mine. Last night I watched Youtube tutorials and still wasn't seeing what I needed to do.
Now I need to copy and paste all of the info you gave me into something I can follow as I go. I am really appreciative. You totally got what I meant, this forum thing is a wonderful, even philanthropic device! Thanks!
For my part you are welcome, Roxanne.
You may go to the Actions to the right at the top of the thread and click the View as PDF button; then you may save it somewhere and print it/view in in Acrobat/Reader, or you may just save the thread as web page, complete somewhere and view it offline using your browser.
And I believe we should all like to hear about, and enjoy, the final outcome.
Thank you so much, Jacob.
I'm looking back at this first description you sent. When you say that the clipping mask will honor the underlying art that extends beyond the clip, THAT is the issue, that I believe I am having.
So, when you say that the transparency needs to be flattened, how does that make the artwork that is extending outside of the boundaries dissapear? I can't see how flattening makes it go away?
I know, just try it, is what you are thinking. I have this mental block, I have to understand it or I will get too frustrated. It's an artist's problem. We only think on the left side of the brain, only so much capacity to handle technical stuff before the overload. This is why your help is so important and I appreciate it!
When you apply the Clipping Mask, everything outside it will be invisible, but it will still be there, and it will still be selectable. To get rid of that, you have to do a dirty destructive deed, in two steps as described in post #2 and repeated here:
4) Apply the Clipping Mask as described. At least in older versions, you will have to choose anything but Normal in the Transparency palette/panel before you Object>Flatten Transparency, and use 100% Vector.
You are actually destroying the artwork by cutting the paths and turning strokes into separate filled paths, hence the (more crucial than usual) necessity to save a copy of the original artwork.
It's an artist's problem. We only think on the left side of the brain,
Are you sure?
Thank you so very much. Really. A million times Thanks!!!!
I tried the Shift, Command, G after the clipping mask, and the pieces did not cut apart based on the shape.
. (I know the drawing tracing needs a lot of work still
Also, I'm not sure why the Ungroup option is grayed out? I have already done the divide.
Are all the pieces ungrouped already?
Sorry if I was confusing. Mine and Jacob's advice seem to be intertwining.
You would ungroup after a divide, as the resulting shapes are often
grouped together. You wouldn't need to ungroup after a clipping mask is
It is always difficult to Clip a Dividing Mask.
You really should try the live paint group and then expand that and delete the extra paths.
BTW if you enter isolation mode you will find it easier to delete the extra paths as well and you have t use the direct select tool (white arrow)not the selection tool (black arrow).