Hi everyone, I've put together an **experimental user-patch** for PE8, which adds presets for progressive-video.
For now, as this patch is experimental, I ask that only ADVANCED USERS initially try out this patch. As they test the various new modes, and report back success/failure to this thread, hopefully the patch will judged safe for all users to install.
I am not affiliated with ADOBE CORPORATION in any way. So do not ask Adobe for support!
Ok, so what does this user-patch do?
It adds editing-presets for progressive-scan HD video modes.
*1920x1080 progressive (NTSC) 59.94 fps
*1920x1080 progressive (PAL) 50.00
*1920x1080 progressive (NTSC) 29.97
*1920x1080 progressive (PAL) 25.00
*1920x1080 progressive (NTSC) 23.976
Anamorphic HD (HDV2, AVCHD)
*1440x1080 progressive (NTSC) 29.97 fps
*1440x1080 progressive (PAL) 25.00
*1440x1080 progressive (NTSC) 23.976
*1280x720 progressive (NTSC) 59.94 fps
*1280x720 progressive (PAL) 50.00
1280x720 progressive (NTSC) 23.976 fps
Digicam/DSLR (not NTSC/PAL compliant)
1280x720 progressive 30.00 fps (Digicam MJPEG)
1280x720 progressive 24.00 fps (Nikon DSLR)
1920x1080 progressive 30.00 fps (Canon 5D Mark 2, legacy firmware older than 2.0.3)
* both stereo-audio and 5.1-audio supported
Superficially, I've tested the following:
1080p60 stereo (using test-clip from Panasonic HS-700 camcorder)
1080p30 stereo (using test-clips from Canon HG-20)
720p60 stereo (using test-clips from Panasonic GH1, ZS3)
The package contains two similar looking presets:
Digicam_AVC_1080p30 (1920x1080p @ 30.00fps)
FullHD 1080p30 (1920x1080p @ 29.97fps NTSC)
What's the difference? The Digicam preset is not NTSC-compliant. It's intended for legacy Canon 5D Mark II footage; shot with older firmware (prior to the 29.97 fps update.)
The FullHD preset is, of course, NTSC-compliant. Use that with the Canon 7D, T2i/550D, 5D Mark II (firmware 2.0.3 and later), and all the fullHD AVCHD camcorders out there.
Note: you'll need admin privileges, because you'll be adding files to the "Program Files" directory.
1) Locate the installation-path of PE8 on your PC. If you installed to the default path, it's most likely
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Premiere Elements 8
or if you have a 64-bit edition of Windows
C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Premiere Elements 8
2) Inside PE8's root-dir (Premiere Elements 8\), unzip this package. you'll be asked whether you want to merge some folders with the ZIP's contents. Answer yes. Note, the ZIP doesn't overwrite any of PE8's original files. It only adds new ones, so you shouldn't have to worry about ruining your PE8 installation (theoretically...)
I have a feeling certain questions will be asked ... so by pre-emptively answering some here, I can avoid answering them again, and again, and again...
1) The preset descriptions (which show up in the dialog-box when you create a new project) are wrong. The descriptions have no effect on the operation of PE8, so I've left them alone.
2) 24p footage from most AVCHD-camcorders renders incorrectly (weave-artifacts, dropped frames, duplicated frames) in a 24p timeline.
Well, that's not the preset's fault -- that's due to interlacing-issues. While '24p' camcorders capture footage (at the sensor) in true 24p mode, most of them store the footage in a 30i bitstream. Long story short, unless you're the lucky owner of a Canon HV-40, HF-S20/S21/S200, or Panasonic SD9 (all of which offer 'true 24p' or 'native 24p' by storing the video in a real 24p bitstream), you'll probably have to deal with inverse-telecining.
If you just try to 'drag and drop' raw 24p camcorder footage from one of the non-blessed camcorders into PE8, PE8 will misinterpret the frame-boundaries, and produce an ugly, wrecked rendering of the footage. The only way waround this is to pre-process all of your raw 24p footage through an inverse-telecine (deinterlacing) program. I think this topic has been beaten to death over and over, so let's not dwell further on it. THe moral is, if you plan to shoot lots of 24p footage and do lots of editing on a 24p timeline, do yourself a favor and select a camera with true 24p recording. Or, be prepared to spend a lot of time inverse-telecining captured footage.
3) interlaced footage in a progressive timeline suffers horizontal-line artifacts.
Well again, that's a de-interlacing issue. If you create a 1080p30 project, then add footage (from an interlaced camcorder), the interlaced footage will not render properly in the progressive timeline. There are many other topics and sites which explain the ins/outs of deinterlacing (and why you need it), so it's enough for me to say: don't drop interlaced-footage into a progressive timeline. The '*exception* is if the interlaced-footage is actually holding progressive-content. For example, the Canon 25PsF and 30PsF modes (HV/HF/HG/HF-S series) are fully workflow-compatible with a 1080p25/30 project timeline. By compatible, I mean the raw footage can be drag&dropped into PE8, and render correctly as frames (free of weave artifacts.) Well, when I tried this with my HG20 and the PE8 trial edition, that's how it worked. And I hope for everyone else, too.
4) 1080p50/60 performance issues
Well, the 1080p50/60 preset *doubles* the frame-rate of the FullHD editing presets. That's twice the CPU-power, RAM, and disk-space needed. So if your PC was already struggling to edit 1080i30 projects; imagine what the experience will be like @ 1080p50/60... and keep in mind PE8 is a consumer-video editing program -- I would be very surprised if someone could edit a long (60 minute) project with more than 4-5 video tracks.
I just realized Adobe forums temporarily disabled ZIP-file attachments...so I'll have to redirect you to elementsvillage.
Please download premiere8_progressive_modes.zip from http://www.elementsvillage.com/forums/showthread.php?p=519932#post519932