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1. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
Harm Millaard Apr 12, 2010 2:05 PM (in response to txbonfire)Angela,
Look here: How to get the best from a PC? Some guides...
and here: Adobe Forums: What PC to build?
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2. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
txbonfire Apr 13, 2010 2:07 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Is there a way I can determine if my current software will run on a new computer with OS of
Windows 7?
For video editing, I currently use:
Adobe Premeire Pro 2.0
Adobe Photoshop CS2
Adobe Encore DVD 2.0
Thanks so much,
Angela
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3. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
Harm Millaard Apr 13, 2010 3:03 PM (in response to txbonfire)You probably need to upgrade to CS4/CS5, but maybe you can run the very old software on Win7 although you may need to use the Win XP compatibility mode.
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4. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
txbonfire Apr 14, 2010 10:22 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)And it looks like "Windows XP Mode" only works with Windows 7 Professional or Windows 7 Ultimate, correct?
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5. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
Harm Millaard Apr 14, 2010 10:30 AM (in response to txbonfire)I can tell you it works on Pro. I don't know about the other versions, because Ultimate is too bloated for me and the Home edition does not support enough memory and lacks some network capability that I need. Microsoft will have a detailed page outlining the differences between the different versions.
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6. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
txbonfire Apr 14, 2010 10:32 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)I decided to go with an HP configurable desktop, either the HPE-170t or the HPE-180t.
Both have lots of options for the graphics card, and I am undecided as to which option is best. I have read the links concerning PC components and see that the following are all acceptable: ATI HD 5670, ATI HD4870 (ATI 4xxx), nVida GTX-285 (nVidia GT 2xx).
What would be the best choice given the following options I have?
HPE-170t: ATI HD 5450, ATI HD 4650, nVidia GeForce GT 220, ATI HD 4850
HPE-180t: ATI HD 5450, ATI HD 4650, nVidia GeForce GT 220, nVidia GeForce GTX 260, ATI HD 4850
Thanks so much in advance,
Angela
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7. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
Harm Millaard Apr 14, 2010 11:14 AM (in response to txbonfire)With these choices, I would opt fot for the HD 4850.
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8. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
txbonfire Apr 14, 2010 1:20 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)What is the difference between these two hard drives? Which would be the better option? I read that it is suggested to have at least three hard drives.
1 TB Raid 0 (2 x 500GB SATA HDDs) - performance
500 GB Raid 1 (2 x 500GB SATA HDDs) - data security
It looks like the 500 GB Raid 1 option has 2 x 500GB HDDs, one of which is a backup for the first. Is this correct?
Thanks,
Angela
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9. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
Harm Millaard Apr 14, 2010 1:27 PM (in response to txbonfire)Angela,
You are correct. Look here for a better explanation: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2397179#2397179
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10. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
txbonfire Apr 14, 2010 2:10 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)After reading your very informative link, it looks like the 1TB RAID 0 option basically gives me two individual 500 GB HDDs, correct? I am wanting to follow your advice concerning having multiple hard drives, each used for a specific purpose (OS/programs, media files, etc...). It looks like the most I can get with this HP configuration is two 500GB hard drives. I do use external hard drives, but would prefer to use them only for backups.
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11. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
txbonfire Apr 14, 2010 2:17 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)I am now getting into the pricing of these components. I need to revisit the graphics card options to see if the price is justified.
The graphics card prices are as follows:
ATI HD 5450 - included
ATI HD 4650 - $20
nVidia GeForce GT 220 - $40
nVidia GeForce GTX 260 - $140
ATI HD 4850 - $140
Is the 4850 still the best choice, or are any of the three cheaper options acceptable?
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12. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
Harm Millaard Apr 14, 2010 2:49 PM (in response to txbonfire)Angela,
This is a perfect example of why it is better to choose the standard configuration from companies like Dell and HP and not enhance it with optional components.
Example: the HD5450 here is around € 50, the HD4850 is around € 110, both including 19% VAT. So the price difference is € 60. Deduct the VAT and the price difference is only € 50, yet they charge you around € 110 or $ 140, more than twice the regular price. They steal you blind.
Advise: Stick to the HD5450.
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13. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
txbonfire Apr 14, 2010 2:53 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Got it! I remember the "steal you blind" comment you had when going through your reference materials concerning PC configurations. Now I understand exactly what you mean. Thank so much for all you have done!
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14. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
txbonfire Apr 14, 2010 3:03 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Harm,
One last question which I posted and wanted to make sure you saw (so that I know I am understanding you correctly):
After reading your very informative link, it looks like the 1TB RAID 0 option basically gives me two individual 500 GB HDDs, correct? I am wanting to follow your advice concerning having multiple hard drives, each used for a specific purpose (OS/programs, media files, etc...). It looks like the most I can get with this HP configuration is two 500GB hard drives. I do use external hard drives, but would prefer to use them only for backups.
Thanks so much,
Angela
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15. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
Harm Millaard Apr 14, 2010 4:10 PM (in response to txbonfire)Angela,
I haven't looked up the specific chassic from HP (mid-tower, full tower or whatever) but usually one can fit in much more disks inside the chassis.
I have a full tower chassis, that has 12 5.25" slots in the front. Currently I have 2 BR burners, leaving 10 5.25" slots with 14 3.5" disks in front (plus 3 disks in the back) and am still able to add 3 more disks for a total of 20 in my system.
If your HP chassis has 3 5.25"slots available, you can easily fit in 5 3.5" disks using a SuperMicro disk cage that I mentioned somewhere in one of those threads and they will be swappable as well.
It may require some DIY work, but get some additional disks from Newegg or similar for much better prices than HP, and install them yourself. Then you can add whatever capacity you want and all internally. Much easier than externals, specially since they can be easily swapped if you go for the SuperMicro disk cage.
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16. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
txbonfire Apr 15, 2010 9:54 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)Harm,
Thank you so much for the advice. That is definitely a solution I will keep in mind. For now, my goal is to purchase this desktop with the best config possible given the options.
The hard drive options are:
640GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive (default)
FREE UPGRADE! 1TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive from 750GB ($0)
FREE UPGRADE! 750GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive from 640GB ($0)
1TB RAID 0 (2 x 500GB SATA HDDs) - performance ($20)
500GB RAID 1 (2 x 500GB SATA HDDs) - data security ($30)
1.5TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive ($50)
2TB 5400 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive ($100)
2TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s - two 1TB hard drives ($100)
I wanted to go with the 1TB RAID 0 just to accomplish having two smaller drives as opposed to one big drive, so that I could keep the OS/programs separate from other files.
My questions:
1. If I do go with the 1TB RAID 0, will I have to disable the RAID 0 to have these two hard drives work independently? Is this a complicated process to disable the RAID 0?
2. Should I go with a different hard drive option, give the choices I have?
Thanks so much,
Angela
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17. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
winner00 Apr 17, 2010 9:18 PM (in response to txbonfire)Best thing to do would be to custom build one so that you know that it works with cs5. Don't get ATI. Adobe doesn't support them. You need a Nvidia card so that you can use the mercury playback engine. That is if you are getting CS5.
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18. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
Harm Millaard Apr 17, 2010 11:29 PM (in response to txbonfire)Angela,
1. If I do go with the 1TB RAID 0, will I have to disable the RAID 0 to have these two hard drives work independently? Is this a complicated process to disable the RAID 0?
2. Should I go with a different hard drive option, give the choices I have?
1. Yes, you can configure that in the Bios and it is not difficult, but even easier is to tell the supplier explicitly you want the disks as separate disks, not in a raid.
2. I would choose to have a physical Windows disk to allow installation on a smallish Velociraptor that you get from Newegg or similar. 150 G is enough. Then install Win7-64 on that Velocipator from the physical disk, and check what you want to keep from the software that was installed on the old boot disk. After you are done with that, and everything works as it should, you can remove everything from the old boot disk.
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19. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
txbonfire Apr 18, 2010 6:58 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)Harm,
Thanks again for the advice. I did purchase the PC yesterday. I did go with the 1TB RAID0, but not sure I can tell HP to disable the RAID0. I also went with this video card: 1GB ATI Radeon HD 4650 [DVI, HDMI, VGA]. Will this be an issue as the other poster mentioned, Adobe not supporting ATI?
My next issue to tackle is my old software. I am posting on the software forums to get more advice on that. Having APP2.0, Encore2.0, and PS CS2, I still need to decide if I can run this programs with Win 7 or if I have to use the XP Mode or if it is best to upgrade the s/w. The only reason I would not upgrade is cost, especially after purchasing the new PC.
Thanks so much,
Angela
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20. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
John T Smith Apr 18, 2010 8:19 AM (in response to txbonfire)That ATI will do just fine for regular work... but it will NOT work with the CS5 Mercury engine
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21. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
txbonfire Apr 18, 2010 10:06 AM (in response to John T Smith)John,
Does this mean that if I decide to upgrade to Premiere Pro CS5 then I will
need an nVidia graphics card?
Thanks,
Angela
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22. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
John T Smith Apr 18, 2010 10:54 AM (in response to txbonfire)You do not NEED an nVidia card to run CS5... but you DO need a SPECIFIED nVidia card to use MPE
Read http://forums.adobe.com/message/2742323
I am going to buy a GTX 285 when I build a 64bit computer to run CS5
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23. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
txbonfire Apr 18, 2010 12:11 PM (in response to John T Smith)Thanks John...I think I understand the situation now.
Take care,
Angela
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24. Re: Desktop Specs - buying new PC to be used with Prem Pro
Harm Millaard Apr 18, 2010 3:16 PM (in response to John T Smith)John,
Just to be clear about it, all video cards that meet minimum requirements support the Mercury Playback Engine in software mode, ATI or nVidia. However, only certified cards run the MPE in hardware mode.


