8 Replies Latest reply: Apr 19, 2010 6:04 AM by P Spier RSS

    Can’t get a great, bright red

    Big Jimm Community Member

      I just can’t get a great, bright, shiny red in IDCS3. (Actually some of the other

      colors aren’t too bright either). My transparency blend is set for RGB to avoid

      washout problem. Could that be a problem, and if so, will I get back to a

      washout problem if I change it?

       

      My CS5 update will be arriving this week, so maybe there will be an improvement.

      Do you think so?

       

      Thanks so much.

        • 1. Re: Can’t get a great, bright red
          Big Jimm Community Member

          Foirgot to add:

           

          It’s only for the view for sending jpg’s in group emails. Not for printing.

          • 2. Re: Can’t get a great, bright red
            p taz Community Member

            Are you making a pdf?

             

            If you are working with images in, say, srgb working profile, that can be your destination too, so whatever you start with you will also finish with and no conversion is required if your pdf generation is done correctly.

             

            edit:  I did read that you are making .jpg, do you mean that you just send a flattened jpg of your job, like an image of a flyer?

            • 3. Re: Can’t get a great, bright red
              Big Jimm Community Member

              No pdf. I do my text plus graphics in ID then save as a jpg to send

              In 0SX Mac Mail.

               

              When I wrtite ANY text into ID, often I bold or stroke it just to give it more

              “body.” But that really doesn’t make it richer and shinier. My complaint is

              primarily when using bigger text for headlines.

               

              Just wish I could get a richer, shinier text look.

              • 4. Re: Can’t get a great, bright red
                [Jongware] Community Member

                I would not advertise InDesign as the recommended program to create JPEGs with ... Its export to JPEG is *very* basic -- and, given the number of complaints on this forum, Adobe would better be off entirely removing it.

                 

                Have you tried other programs that *are* more geared towards what you are doing? Even Illustrator would be a better choice, as that one has at least a "Save For Web" module.

                • 5. Re: Can’t get a great, bright red
                  P Spier CommunityMVP

                  To get a bright red you need to define the color as RGB in the Swatches or Color Panel (or -- shudder-- use the color picker and stay in RGB mode). ID will be happy to create and display bright reds that can't be printed as long as you aren't in Overprint Preview mode.

                  • 6. Re: Can’t get a great, bright red
                    Big Jimm Community Member

                    Thanks so much Peter.


                    I'm just an 80 year old, over-the-hill, retired businessman and don’t use

                    my programs for commercial return. I am very embarrassed to ask my

                    dumb questions to you folks who are so expert. But, I appreciate so much

                    all of your help.


                    Question 1: How do I define the color as RGB in the swatches panel .. or,

                    use the color picker and stay in RGB mode?


                    Question 2: You say .. “ID will be happy to create and display bright reds

                    that can't be printed as long as you aren't in Overprint Preview mode.”


                    Where do I find this?


                    MANY thanks.

                     

                    Jim


                    • 7. Re: Can’t get a great, bright red
                      Eugene Tyson CommunityMVP

                      Transparency Blend setting is only for when you have transparent objects on the page and when you flatten the page during output. It forces interacting with the transparency into the RGB colour space instead of CMYK.  This can be problematic if you want to output the file at another stage to PDF for print or something, as the RGB blend space will force black objects into RGB colour, and if you have black type it ends up being 4 colour black.

                       

                      So just be careful about why you'd change your transparency blend settings.

                      • 8. Re: Can’t get a great, bright red
                        P Spier CommunityMVP

                        The Color Picker is an RGB space, but if you click into the Lab or CMYK fields you'll be converting any swatch you generate to that mode. I personally avoid the color picker like the plague, even though I know how it works. For the less adept it can give unexpected results.

                         

                        To work in RGB mode in teh Color Panel open the panel menu and choose RGB. The sliders will change from CMYK to RGB. You can do similar in the new swatch dialog by choosing RGB from the "color mode" dropdown. ID will display these colors as RGB unless you switch to Overprint Preview, at which point it will display the CMYK conversion for the current CMYK workspace. The RGB colors can be preserved during export to PDF or when creating a JPEG.