3 Replies Latest reply on May 25, 2010 5:09 PM by RD-adobeuser

    Auto-renew of PDF Online - terrible business practice

    RD-adobeuser

      I have been a very satisfied customer of Adobe for many years. I'm sharing my most recent experience to serve as a warning to others, so that they do not get taken advantage of the way I have been.

       

      Last year, in the midst of a relatively new launch of my business, I found I needed a PDF creator for interaction with my clients.  There are many free, work-around solutions online, but, as a loyal user of Adobe Reader, and out of concern for high quality, I felt it was important to patronize the company and use an authorized solution.

       

      On April 13, 2009, I subscribed to PDF Online, a service I had used in the past at other companies.  The online subscription is $99.99 per year and facilitates conversion of documents into .pdf.

       

      By July of 2009, I found that PDF Online was insufficient to meet the needs of my business.  I took the decision to upgrade to Adobe Acrobat Pro for $450.  This was a big expense for my business at the time, but I knew it was the right decision for me. I have been a very satisfied customer of Adobe Acrobat Pro since July of 2009.

       

      Last week, I received a charge on my credit card for $99.99, auto-renewing PDF Online.  I was surprised.  I had not logged in to use this service in almost a year.  Acrobat Pro has been meeting all of my needs.  I forgot I even had a subscription.  I hadn't received any kind of communication from Adobe reminding me that I had the service.  I immediately logged in to cancel the subscription and request a refund.

       

      Since last week, I've been on at least four customer service calls and two chat sessions to attempt to refund the $99.99.  On one of the chats, I had finally been told that I would receive a refund.  After a few days of waiting without seeing the refund on my card, I contacted Adobe again.  I received an email with a PDF attachment that said:

       

      "With regards to your concern, I really regret to tell you this but unfortnately you request for refund was not approved. These kinds of subscriptions are non-refundable and that is clearly stated on the Terms of Condition and Use which you agreed upon by the time that you subscribe to the service. You actually have the full capability to stop this auto renewal subscription if you wish to do so."

       

      At the bottom of the email is a message that says, "You may reply to this email or call us at 1 800 833 6687 for your response."  It's a circular loop!  The email address is a "noreply" address, so you cannot reply.  I called the 800 number again tonight and a message said I would have a wait time of between 1 and 3 minutes.  I was on hold for over 30 minutes before giving up.

       

      This is a terrible business practice:

       

      • I have been a happy customer, and upgraded to premium products. I'm now very dissatisfied and looking for alternatives.

       

      • If, by chance, the credit card I had had on file with Adobe had expired before last week, they would not have been able to charge my card.  I'm guessing I would have been contacted by Adobe to renew.  Of course, I would have chosen not to renew.

       

      • I am suspicious of any online subscription business that practices auto-renewing without contacting customers.  I never would have expected a large and highly respected company like Adobe to engage in such a practice.

       

      What I have learned from this experience is, customers beware.  Even a highly trusted brand like Adobe is still more interested in taking your money than providing a service.

       

      Respectfully,

      -RD

        • 1. Re: Auto-renew of PDF Online - terrible business practice
          RD-adobeuser Level 1

          I contacted my credit card company to dispute the charge.

           

          UPDATE:  This morning, I received a call from an Adobe Customer Service Representative letting me know that they had escalated this issue and were approving a pro-rated refund of $91 (couldn't hear the exact figure).  I guess they are pro-rating for the time elapsed from April 13 to my first call to Adobe on April 18?  Will close out this thread when the refund comes through.

          • 2. Re: Auto-renew of PDF Online - terrible business practice
            dryonkin2

            I also was blindsided by a $100+ hit to my credit card due to this "hidden" subscription renewal - I had no idea it was in place. I was already extremely unhappy with the product as it didn't work, and doesn't work, so of course would have never renewed it. My request for a refund for this hidden cost has been denied because "the contract excludes refunds."  I'm a small business, and this is kind of dubious businss practice is unconscionable - I will  strongly recommend my colleagues to stay away from Adobe for any kind of service.  The product sucks, and they suck.

            • 3. Re: Auto-renew of PDF Online - terrible business practice
              RD-adobeuser Level 1

              I did not have too much trouble with PDF Online.  It was helpful in converting docs for the month or so that I used it last year.  I recall possibly a problem with converting the most current version of .ppt into a PDF, but perhaps that's been resolved.  My issue was having a dormant account for almost a year (because I had upgraded to their premium product), and then being charged for renewal unexpectedly.

               

              After several calls and the two posts I made to these pages, I received a call from Adobe to resolve the issue.  I received a partial refund.