8 Replies Latest reply: May 4, 2010 5:41 AM by PECourtejoie RSS

    Cs4/Cs5 PS - Menu bar drives me nuts

    Joey33

      Is that possible to eliminate that gap between the top menu bar and the top screen edge?

       

      It's very irritating that when I move my mouse to the top edge I cannot unfold menus with a click. I have to move the pointer down

      a bit. It's like shooting ducks and hinders work.

       

      I saw that in Cs4 trial  but hoped it would be brought back to normal in cs5 when finally I want to upgrade.

       

      Hope I'm missing some settings...

      Joey33

        • 1. Re: Cs4/Cs5 PS - Menu bar drives me nuts
          dec9 Community Member

          So when you hover the mouse over Edit or Image those words don't turn into a button to click on?

          • 2. Re: Cs4/Cs5 PS - Menu bar drives me nuts
            Wolf Eilers Community Member

            It appears that you park the Ps menu bar at the top of your monitor and then access the menus by quickly moving the mouse to the top of the monitor screen where is stops. However, as you note the menu bar does not have focus at the very top.

             

            I have two words: keyboard shortcuts. If you are accessing menu items with the mouse that extensively then you really do need to master some shortcuts. But I confess that I use a tablet pen that allows me to type keyboard shortcuts without releasing the pen. Admittedly harder to do with a mouse.

            • 3. Re: Cs4/Cs5 PS - Menu bar drives me nuts
              Joey33 Community Member

              Yes, exactly. You have to move the mouse down a bit to activate menus.

              • 4. Re: Cs4/Cs5 PS - Menu bar drives me nuts
                Joey33 Community Member

                Yes, I know shortcuts are a relief...

                 

                But still, why did it always work in previous versions but now (cs4, cs5) the work is actually harder?

                 

                screens:

                http://www.englishcafe.pl/ps_cs2.gif

                http://www.englishcafe.pl/ps_cs5.gif

                • 5. Re: Cs4/Cs5 PS - Menu bar drives me nuts
                  Jesper Storm Bache Adobe Employee

                  Just to be sure I understand the issue. On a standard WIndows application you do not get this behavior (because menus appear much further away form the display edge)?

                  In order to maximize the vertical space available for documents (as opposed to UI), the Photoshop application frame combines the application menu and the "window move" area.

                  The top of the application frame is used for moving and not for menu items.

                  There are a few reasons for this, one being that this is necessary to designate this area as "move area" in order to get proper peek and shake functionality on Windows 7.

                  • 6. Re: Cs4/Cs5 PS - Menu bar drives me nuts
                    Joey33 Community Member

                    Yes Jesper, couldn't be further from truth - the area at the top alongside the edge is for functionalities reserved for windows, not necessarily for unfolding menus.

                     

                    However, previous versions (at least the ones I've been using 7-9) allowed for 3 modes of workspace - 1 stnd and 2 full screen (with and without menu bar).

                    The difference with CS4/Cs5 is that when working in mode 2 - full screen + menu bar, you can NO LONGER access/unfold menus by clicking at the very edge of the screen.

                     

                    Since I've grown used to that for years, it's really frustrating and odd that it has been changed. Apart from keyboard shortcuts I do use menu a lot and now

                    the workflow is hindered indeed.

                     

                    It was simultaneous with the 'application frame' introduced in CS4 - probabaly then this dead area in full screen mode appeared.

                     

                    To be precise and well-understood - it is an issue in FULL SCREEN PLUS MENU BAR.

                     

                    Regards,

                    Joey33

                    • 7. Re: Cs4/Cs5 PS - Menu bar drives me nuts
                      Jesper Storm Bache Adobe Employee

                      Thank you for the clarification. Yes - in full screen mode with UI, the active area for a menu could be extended to the display edge.

                      • 8. Re: Cs4/Cs5 PS - Menu bar drives me nuts
                        PECourtejoie CommunityMVP

                        I would enter a bug form, as this breaks previous behaviour. It goes against Fitts' law that explains that the target area has to be bigger with the distance, and the edge of a screen makes it endless, as it is the case on the mac side.

                         

                        I seriously hope that it would be consider fixeable for a x.01 release!