5 Replies Latest reply: Aug 8, 2007 1:49 AM by RoboColum(n)

Frameset query

RoboColum(n) Aug 6, 2007 9:33 AM

I'm using framesets for the first (and probably last) time

I've created a frameset, set-up a topic to display as the initial file in each frame and assigned the frameset file as the default topic in the SSL. All works well until I use the TOC, Index or Search tab to navigate. Then the frameset disappears never to return. I know I'm doing something wrong. I also know I'm going to kick myself so hard when I find out the answer that I'll be ashamed of having asked this question. I just can't seem to grasp how to assign a frame to display a topic in. I've set the frame to "Same Frame" in the advanced SSL options to no effect.

If it helps I'm trying to get an area of each help topic to behave like a non-scrolling region - for those of you who remember winhelp files - but in the bottom frame and the actual topic displayed in the top frame. The tri-pane view appears as normal. Any hob nailed boot suggestions welcome

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RoboColum(n) Aug 6, 2007 9:34 AM (in response to RoboColum(n))

Sorry I should have added that I'm using RHX5 and outputing HTML Help although I don't think that is a factor in my stupidity in not getting this to work. Grrrrr!
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Amebr-ke0mH4 Aug 6, 2007 9:11 PM (in response to RoboColum(n))

Hi Colum,

I haven't tried framesets in a CHM project before, but in WebHelp, for the TOC, you have to link the Frameset topic rather than the content topic. I *think* something similar applies when you are creating index entries - you have to assign the frameset, not the content file. I can't check that project at the moment, sorry.

With the search, we didn't find a solution to only the content page loading, unfortunately. Again, this was for WebHelp, not CHM output.

Hopefully that helps some...
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RoboColum(n) Aug 7, 2007 1:36 AM (in response to RoboColum(n))

Thanks for the response Amebr. So if I understand correctly you can't have a TOC and a Frameset in your project. If you do, and you click on a item in the TOC other than the frameset file, you loose focus from the frameset. The only way I can see a solution to this is if all the navigation takes place inside one of the frameset frames.
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Roger N Aug 7, 2007 11:02 AM (in response to RoboColum(n))

Colum, Amebr -

Using framesets to simulate Non-Scrolling Regions is indeed, problematic; here are some NSR alternatives to framesets I posted several years ago:

http://www.copperfieldpub.com/content/nonscrolling_footers__how_to.htm

http://www.copperfieldpub.com/content/non_scrolling_regions_using_overflow_how_to.htm

I haven't updated the site in many moons, but I plan on a re-org sometime, when I can....
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RoboColum(n) Aug 8, 2007 1:49 AM (in response to RoboColum(n))

Thanks Roger for the links. They are really useful if not quite what I want to achieve. I must be trying to fit a square box through a round hole ;-(
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