10 Replies Latest reply: Aug 14, 2007 11:33 AM by Newsgroup_User RSS

    Flash movies need two clicks to start

    JayNewWeb Community Member
      I record short videos with a camcorder, Capture that into Premiere Elements 3 and Export it to WMV (or AVI), then use Swish Video 2 to encode that to SWF with a simple player added.

      I place it in my web page in DW MX 2004. I leave the default properties of Loop and Autoplay checked on (I don't know what they do but the settings in the player when I create it with the SWF seem to override these anyway).

      When I then put the page on the web, the video always requires clicking on the Play button twice before it will start to play.

      The video on this page is an example. The same thing always happens when I use the above procedure.

      Why is that?

        • 1. Re: Flash movies need two clicks to start
          Newsgroup_User Community Member
          It's IE-only behaviour as a result of changes Microsoft made several
          years ago to their browser, regarding how Active Content (Flash, Quicktime
          etc)
          is handled, after losing a high profile court case.

          http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/12/15/internet-explorer-eolas-changes-and-the-flash-plugin/

          Background:
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eolas

          See also
          http://www.adobe.com/devnet/activecontent/

          If you're running Dreamweaver 8.0.2/CS3, the fix is already built into DW's
          interface.

          If not, try http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/


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          "JayNewWeb" <jnewman@silver100.com> wrote in message
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          >I record short videos with a camcorder, Capture that into Premiere Elements
          >3
          > and Export it to WMV (or AVI), then use Swish Video 2 to encode that to
          > SWF
          > with a simple player added.
          >
          > I place it in my web page in DW MX 2004. I leave the default properties of
          > Loop and Autoplay checked on (I don't know what they do but the settings
          > in the
          > player when I create it with the SWF seem to override these anyway).
          >
          > When I then put the page on the web, the video always requires clicking on
          > the
          > Play button twice before it will start to play.
          >
          > The video http://www.silver100.com/x/bus/dosimeter is an example. The same
          > thing always happens when I use the above procedure.
          >
          > Why is that?
          >
          >
          >


          • 2. Re: Flash movies need two clicks to start
            JayNewWeb Community Member
            I appreciate it.

            I'm running DW MX 2004 v 7.0.1.

            I had posted an inquiry a few weeks ago specifically asking if upgrading to the current version of DW would provide any benefits for putting Flash video on the web and was told it wouldn't. It seems that's not entirely correct. This alone is worth the upgrade.

            So, now that I've decided to upgrade to CS3, can I ignore the info at the link you gave me for the Javascript fix (and the rest of the links you provided)?

            Thanks.

            • 3. Re: Flash movies need two clicks to start
              Newsgroup_User Community Member
              If you have CS3, yes.

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              "JayNewWeb" <jnewman@silver100.com> wrote in message
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              >I appreciate it.
              >
              > I'm running DW MX 2004 v 7.0.1.
              >
              > I had posted an inquiry a few weeks ago specifically asking if upgrading
              > to
              > the current version of DW would provide any benefits for putting Flash
              > video on
              > the web and was told it wouldn't. It seems that's not entirely correct.
              > This
              > alone is worth the upgrade.
              >
              > So, now that I've decided to upgrade to CS3, can I ignore the info at the
              > link
              > you gave me for the Javascript fix (and the rest of the links you
              > provided)?
              >
              > Thanks.
              >
              >
              >


              • 4. Re: Flash movies need two clicks to start
                thespin
                I would upgrade to DW8 for now and wait for CS3 to 'mature' ... save yourself some headaches ...
                • 5. Flash movies need two clicks to start
                  JayNewWeb Community Member
                  That's interesting. I'm certainly in the camp of believers who say that waiting for others to finish beta-testing/using something is always best.

                  The only thing I really cared about that motivated me to upgrade is being able to have the new Javascript natively present for making Flash video play on a single click of the Play button on the player instead of requiring two clicks of the Play button as is the case with DW MX 2004.

                  I just installed the CS3 trial and right away I noticed some of my pages created in MX 2004 were appearing very differently in Design view, with text being too small, or appearing rasterized if I zoomed, and with dotted boxes around paragraphs -- but only on some pages. But in the browser they look normal. This is definitely going to confuse me, or require conversion of some sort. (I have no idea what I would convert them with -- possibly one of the features that I noticed in the File – Convert menu?)

                  I also noticed right away that the fix I was after was certainly present and operating like a charm: saving the page gives you a message saying the Scripts folder and file were added to your root and to make sure to upload them. I did that and the Flash videos on my site now all play with a single click of the Play button! (I could swear the speech audio is more realistic, too, but maybe that's just me.)

                  I am the opposite of a power user, and I'm not using it to integrate with any of the other Creative Suite apps. So, maybe CS3 offers me little if anything that DW 8.0.2 can't offer, and maybe CS3 has more headaches for me than I need right now. I have no idea about how to weigh that and would GREATLY appreciate advice on this, please!

                  So, how advantageous will it be for me to go to DW 8.0.2 instead, realistically? Seems like I'd need a big reason to try to go to DW 8 since there's no support (tutorials etc) compared to CS3.

                  And if it is really advantageous, where do I find it on the web and can I get a trial version to try out?

                  Thanks!

                  • 6. Re: Flash movies need two clicks to start
                    Newsgroup_User Community Member
                    I wouldn't wait. CS3 is very fine....

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                    "thespin" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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                    >I would upgrade to DW8 for now and wait for CS3 to 'mature' ... save
                    >yourself some headaches ...


                    • 7. Flash movies need two clicks to start
                      JayNewWeb Community Member
                      I'm going with your guidance here, Murry. I know you're the ace and have seen you here doing that for years.

                      So now I'm anxiously watching for you or someone else to please reply to my inquiry at another new thread I started on how to do the "conversion" so pages created in MX 2004 appear correctly in Design view in CS3.

                      Thanks.

                      • 8. Re: Flash movies need two clicks to start
                        Newsgroup_User Community Member
                        Please post this as a new topic so that we don't hijack this thread.

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                        "JayNewWeb" <jnewman@silver100.com> wrote in message
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                        > I'm going with your guidance here, Murry. I know you're the ace and have
                        > seen
                        > you here doing that for years.
                        >
                        > So now I'm anxiously watching for you or someone else to please reply to
                        > my
                        > inquiry at
                        > http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messagepost.cfm?postaction=edit&cat
                        > id=189&threadid=1292361&messid=4677809&STARTPAGE=1 on how to do the
                        > "conversion" so pages created in MX 2004 appear correctly in Design view
                        > in CS3.
                        >
                        > Thanks.
                        >
                        >
                        >


                        • 9. Re: Flash movies need two clicks to start
                          JayNewWeb Community Member
                          Murray,

                          I'm not sure what you want me to do for posting the topic as a new thread. I'm happy to accommodate whatever protocol and steps you request. I'm confused, though, because I thought I had already done exactly what you suggest: I posted it as a new thread, and linked to it with a hyperlink in my prior post where I refer to "this thread." I'm going to edit that now so the hyperlink will instead say "another new thread I started" since it's probably ambiguous the way it was worded. If that's not achieving what you wanted, just let me know.


                          • 10. Re: Flash movies need two clicks to start
                            Newsgroup_User Community Member
                            Please don't edit posts. They will not show for anyone accessing the thread
                            from a newsreader.

                            Just start a new thread by making a new post and ask your question.

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                            "JayNewWeb" <jnewman@silver100.com> wrote in message
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                            > Murray,
                            >
                            > I'm not sure what you want me to do for posting the topic as a new thread.
                            > I'm
                            > happy to accommodate whatever protocol and steps you request. I'm
                            > confused,
                            > though, because I thought I had already done exactly what you suggest: I
                            > posted
                            > it as a new thread, and linked to it with a hyperlink in my prior post
                            > where I
                            > refer to "this thread." I'm going to edit that now so the hyperlink will
                            > instead say "another new thread I started" since it's probably ambiguous
                            > the
                            > way it was worded. If that's not achieving what you wanted, just let me
                            > know.
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >