-
1. Re: Codecs and Video
John T Smith May 15, 2010 11:59 AM (in response to frogmike)>professional editing suite like premiere
Motion JPEG is not a professional codec, but look at Morgan http://www.morgan-multimedia.com/ or MainConcept http://www.mainconcept.com/site/prosumer-products-4/motion-jpeg-codec-785/information-797. html
Expect to pay for something that works
Oh... and make NOTES about what you do, so the next time you have a question people don't have to guess based on "downloaded the package (forget the name)"
-
2. Re: Codecs and Video
frogmike May 15, 2010 12:07 PM (in response to John T Smith)My bad, thanks for the reply. It was the Morgan pack that I downloaded previously. I'm looking at MainConcept right now and it seems there'll also be a watermark, or you have to pay.
I guess my only choice then is to pay the price to play my videos right, or have the watermark. How about converters? Are there any appropriate converters to convert the M-JPEG files to standard AVI or WMV formats?
-
3. Re: Codecs and Video
Harm Millaard May 15, 2010 12:27 PM (in response to frogmike)Conversion costs quality. The codec costs money. Which do you prefer?
-
4. Re: Codecs and Video
frogmike May 15, 2010 12:36 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)"Pick your poison" basically.
The quality of the D90 720p video ain't all that great to begin with, so I'd probably try and preserve it as much as possible. Maybe I'll just stick with the smiley watermark after all...
I'm using the HDV 720p 24fps setting for my D90 footage, would people agree with that choice? It *seems* like its the best one... -
5. Re: Codecs and Video
John T Smith May 15, 2010 4:13 PM (in response to frogmike)> convert the M-JPEG files to standard AVI or WMV formats
If you do convert, you want DV AVI type 2 with 48khz sound... NEVER, EVER try to edit WMV
I have NOT used these products, I only forward due to other mentions
Convert http://premierepro.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:How_do_I_convert_my_files%3F
Edit Vob http://premierepro.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:How_do_I_import_VOB_files_/_edit_a_DVD%3F
$99 http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Product/1175714228541#tabview=tab0
$99 http://www.womble.com/products/mvw.html
$90 http://www.magix.com/us/movie-edit-pro/ plus $5 Ship
$80 http://www.nchsoftware.com/prism/index.html
$75 http://www.videoredo.com/en/index.htm
$70 http://www.nchsoftware.com/prism/index.html Converter
$40 http://www.daniusoft.com/dvd-ripper.html#135
$40 http://www.deskshare.com/dmc.aspx Digital Media Converter
$00 http://www.squared5.com/ MPEG Streamclip Converter
$00 http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html Multi-Converter
$00 http://www.virtualdub.org/ Mpeg to AVI Converter -
6. Re: Codecs and Video
Ann Bens May 15, 2010 4:47 PM (in response to frogmike)No need to convert.
Download the Mainconcept M-jpeg. No watermark.
http://www.mainconcept.com/products/sdks/video/motion-jpeg.html
Plays beautiful in CS4 as well in CS5 (even better).
I dropped the footage in a 720p25 timeline as i am in pal-land and it exported beautiful to mpeg-dvd, no watermark either.
For me this works better than dropping it into a 24p timeline and exporting it to 25 frames.
Dont forget to disenable the frameblend.
In CS4 you get the yellow line in CS5 its nativly in 24p/25p timeline.
-
7. Re: Codecs and Video
Powered by Design May 15, 2010 6:20 PM (in response to frogmike)If you have to just create your own bug and place it over the watermark.
It all depends on how large the watermark is.
ENjoy: Glenn
-
8. Re: Codecs and Video
frogmike May 16, 2010 3:11 PM (in response to Ann Bens)I'll have to try that out, thanks.
I have a new problem. I was cleaning out some files from my adobe folder (SSD was getting low on space), and it seemed as though they were mainly save and reference files I believe (...my documents/adobe/premierepro). Now when I go to load my project, it loads everything, but the videos are all black, in my bin and on the timeline. Even when I load a new project import the videos they still show up black, other videos and photos work fine though. Any ideas...? Thanks.
-
9. Re: Codecs and Video
Bill Hunt May 16, 2010 3:13 PM (in response to frogmike)My guess is that the cleanup took more things out, than was intended.
If you do a simple test New Project, and Import a few of those files, what happens?
Good luck,
Hunt
-
10. Re: Codecs and Video
frogmike May 16, 2010 3:19 PM (in response to Bill Hunt)I tried a new project, but still get the same balck results. I reinstalled premiere (didn't have HDV preset option after the cleanup, now I do again), but still not working properl : (
-
11. Re: Codecs and Video
Bill Hunt May 16, 2010 3:24 PM (in response to frogmike)I wonder if you took out some of the player .dll's, or maybe some of the CODEC's?
Just thinking there.
Good luck,
Hunt
-
12. Re: Codecs and Video
frogmike May 16, 2010 5:34 PM (in response to Bill Hunt)Possibly. I uninstalled and re-installed the entire production suite, so all the files should be back to normal. I open up the project, bam, black videos. Maybe its something with the project file itself?
-
13. Re: Codecs and Video
frogmike May 16, 2010 6:43 PM (in response to frogmike)Well I did something, and something with updates, and everything seems to work fine!
One additional non troubling question. Whenever I'm working zoomed-in on my timline and then I zoom out several times, it seems to take a few moments to "load" my other clips on the timline. Is that normal? I'm running on a fairly decent system here, but it slightly annoys me to have to wait for those clips to load... -
14. Re: Codecs and Video
medeamajic May 16, 2010 7:06 PM (in response to John T Smith)function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}
John T Smith wrote:
>professional editing suite like premiere
Motion JPEG is not a professional codec, but look at Morgan http://www.morgan-multimedia.com/ or MainConcept http://www.mainconcept.com/site/prosumer-products-4/motion-jpeg-codec-785/inform ation-797.html
Expect to pay for something that works
Oh... and make NOTES about what you do, so the next time you have a question people don't have to guess based on "downloaded the package (forget the name)"
What? MJPEG was used in many of the professional capture cards form the mid 90s. Even the older Avids with the Targa 2000 cards used MJPEG. It is not a bad codec. Mini DV or DV-25 and even DV-50 use the same technology more or less. MJPEG's data rates can be altered to even capture uncompressed. MJPEG was great back in the day of 3/4" and Beta but in this new tapeless world MJPEG does not get used that much but MJPEG does produce professional results. At equal bit rates MJPEG will look worse than MPEG but MJPEG has the potential to produce uncompressed video as I stated earlier. MJPEG can produce great results but also requires more hard drive space in order to do so. -
15. Re: Codecs and Video
Bill Hunt May 17, 2010 9:13 AM (in response to frogmike)Glad that things are pretty much back to normal.
As for the delay, one thing that I would check would be the video driver. Usually, the very latest will be the best, however, I do keep older versions around for a while, as sometimes the newer ones will have "features" that do not play well. While I have never had to roll-back any of mine, some users have.
One thing that happens is that simple OS updates/hot-fixes can render a video driver obsolete instantly, and often with no warning, if one allows those to install automatically (the default in the OS). Also, NLE programs, like PrPro, work much more closely and extensively, than will a simple player. People often get a false sense of security, because WMP, or other, will play fine, but then the NLE will have issues. It is the degree of interface between the NLE and the video driver.
BTW - what video card do you have?
Good luck,
Hunt
-
16. Re: Codecs and Video
Bill Hunt May 17, 2010 9:15 AM (in response to medeamajic)Yes, MJPEG has been around for a long time. It rather fell out of favor, as newer CODEC's came out. It resurfaced with the Nikon DSLR's, and some other similar cameras, and is now being used quite a bit.
Not sure how the newer versions might differ, if at all, from the older versions, but it seems to do a good job, with few problems, so long as one has the MJPEG CODEC properly installed.
Hunt
-
17. Re: Codecs and Video
frogmike May 17, 2010 10:08 AM (in response to Bill Hunt)I'm running Windows 7 Home premium 64-bit, 8gb DDR3 RAM, Intel i5 750 cpu, XFX nvidia GTS 250 (1gig version) video card.
Are the latest updates for premiere CS4 available on adobe's site, or can some other sites also provide helpful software. And is there an optimization option in the preferences in premiere? I know I enabled open GL drawing in photoshop to take some advantage of the the gpu. Any suggestions? Thanks.
-





