The horizontal line segregation is based on the Script of the Font (Roman, Indic, Japanese, Chinese, Korean etc..)
That's what I'd assumed, though the Helvetica Neue font would surely be Roman? Illustrator is clearly classing it as something else. Perhaps a font app will tell me what script the font is in. Thanks.
That maybe a system required font or an application required font. Or for web browsers.
Hi Wade, thank you for adding a comment.
This is a completely new 'clean' machine I'm working with (I deliberately didn't use the apple migration app so as to start fresh). Having gone into Illustrator and not seen Helvetica Neue (because I didn't scroll down far enough) I added it to the user/library/fonts. However... the reality is that it was there already in the system/library/fonts... so Illustrator was not listing my addition but the system one.
This actually adds to my inability to grasp the logic here. There is a group of fonts above (AppleGothic Regular, Arial Unicode MS and Adobe Myungjo Std M) which look to me like app specific fonts. Why they should be listed separately to the Helvetica, in that case, I don't know.
Well... anyway..... I can manage to remember that this one font is listed differently in Illustrator (obscurely) and InDesign (logically). I'm not sure how an obscure logic to listing fonts, which also differs across apps helps the end user (like me/us) work efficiently... though thankfully it is possible to bypass this oddness by typing in the font name in the character etc dialogues/panel which in truth is what I tend to do... though doing so doesn't seem to quite work with the finesse I feel I've experienced somewhere else.
Thanks for your thoughts, much appreciated, I can accept this is to remain a curiosity... cheers.
(Good portfolio by the way Wade).
It's seems to be grouping Helvetica Neue as Cyrillic Script font. Not sure about Indesign grouping
I am less experienced with font groupings and such than those who have commented thus far. These subgroupings within the menu frustrate the heck out of me. Yes, I can get at a font if I know it's name (I recently purchased Suitcase Fusion to help) but that just means I need to know the name in advance. There must be something, somewhere, that Illustrator is using here.
I would love to read up on this but can't seem to find much. Suitcase Fusion's help doesn't seem to address this. Personally, with all of the wonderful things Adobe apps do, I can't imagine why the font menu design is so clunky.
I'd would greatly appreciate any suggestions you guys might have! Thanks for taking the time to read this. :-)
…or is just a random inconsistency in app design…
When it's all said and done, that's pretty much it. And examples of it abound.