8 Replies Latest reply on Jun 24, 2010 5:34 PM by cfsKC

    System review assistance please

    cfsKC

       

       

       

      I have sought to sift through the very helpful postings in this forum in developing the basis of a dedicated workstation and now need just a little further clarification and advice before I have the system built by others. I will be using the Adobe Creative Suite 5 Master Collection.

       

      I create medical interview videos for publication on the Internet, mostly of 20-30 minutes in length. Some are as long as 75 minutes I shoot in AVCHD with a Panasonic AG-HMC150. My work typically has four or fewer video layers and two or three audio layers.

       

      My understanding of the various postings leads me to believe that the following would work for me now and yet be a system that could be upgraded/expanded as may be needed in the future should my projects become more complex. The costs shown are for parts from NewEgg.

       

      Processor

      I-930 (OC 3.7) w/ I cpu   chip, 4 cores & 12 gig RAM

      $   290

      RAM

      OCZ Gold 12GB (6 x   2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

      $   366

      Boot Drive/Disk

      WD VelociRaptor WD3000HLFS 300GB   10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"

      $   200

      Motherboard

      ASUS P6T WS PRO LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Core i7

      $   280

      Video Card

      GTX 480 Ha

      $   480

      PowerSupply

      CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W

      $   130

      Blu-Ray Burner

      LG WH10LS30K 10X Blu-ray Burner

      $   140

      Cooler

      Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO   CPU Cooler - CPU Fans & Heatsinks 

      $     90

      Operating Syst

      Windows 7 Pro 64-bit   OEM

      $   134

      Chassis

      LIAN LI PC-A77F Black Aluminum   ATX Full Tower Computer Case 

      $   350

      Computer parts less storage total cost

      $ 2,460

       

      In spite of numerous reading of the various postings on storage and RAID I am much less clear as to the most appropriate storage to set up. I have been unable to get a clear understanding of whether or not I even need a RAID setup let alone how to determine which RAID controller best suits my needs.

      I THINK that the following is appropriate. But would really appreciate comments on whether my storage inclination is reasonable and economical considering my current editing needs or whether I might be better off delaying the installation of a RAID system

       

      RAID Controller

      areca ARC-1680IX-12 PCIe x8 SAS   RAID Card

      $   789

      Storage

      4 x Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200RPM SATA 3.0gb/s   3.5"

      $   280

      HD 1 = OS & programs

      HD 2 Media & Projects                        

      HD 3 pagefile,  media cache

      HD 4  previews &   Exports

      Storage Total

      $ 1,069

      System Total

      $ 3,529

       

      Again, is there anything shown which is unnecessary or overkill for which something less expensive might be substituted. Is anything missing? What changes, if any, are suggested? I have not yet choosen a builder and am very open to recommendations in this area as well.

      Finally, very special thanks, most notably to Harm, to the active posters in this forum for the invaluable insights and assistance offered in your postings and responses.

        • 1. Re: System review assistance please
          John T Smith Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          I edit AVCHD on a similar system... with NO raid and 3 hard drives (320Gig+320Gig+1Terabyte) and have not noticed any slowness or "stumbles" with the video

           

          Other kinds of HD video do need, so I read, a raid setup... see my computer notes http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith/ADOBE.HTM

           

          Also My CS5/AVCHD 1st Impressions http://forums.adobe.com/thread/652694?tstart=0 and http://forums.adobe.com/thread/653789?tstart=0

           

          Do consider (if your case allows) side fans to blow air onto the GTX card and the motherboard

           

          I have read in other messages that the GTX 470 will be "officially" supported soon, but the GTX 480 will NOT

           

          I don't have links, so you might search the forum for GTX 470 and/or GTX 480 and do some reading

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          • 2. Re: System review assistance please
            Harm Millaard Level 7

            This looks like a very balanced system with room to grow.

             

            But let me try to help you with the disk setup, to which you have obviously given quite some consideration.

             

            You plan on a Velociraptor 300 G. That should be used for OS & Programs.

             

            Then you have 4 Spinpoint F3 disks, and you have the Areca controller. I would put these 4 disks in a Raid3. That means Windows will see it as a single disk, let's say your D: drive, with effectively 3 TB of space. That makes it easy to organize your projects and clean up after you finished your project.

             

            Have a look here and closely look at the situation where you have 5 disks, one Velociraptor and 4 Spinpoints. Adobe Forums: Generic Guideline for Disk Setup

             

            This approach makes it very easy to add future disks, because all you need to do is expand the raid with an additional disk and you have gained storage space and speed, without endangering your existing data.

             

            Hope this helps.

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            • 3. Re: System review assistance please
              Baz R Level 3

              hi,

               

              nice choices.

               

              I would go for a 1000w psu,

               

              Baz

              • 4. Re: System review assistance please
                cfsKC Level 1

                 

                Thank you all for your comments and suggestions.

                 

                Harm, as a follow up –

                 

                It seems that you do agree that a RAID array and controller is appropriate for my needs at this time. That being the case, would you mind elaborating on why you think the particular card I have initially selected, through guesswork, is appropriate? 

                 

                I could find nothing on the Internet which gave me any guidance on the practical difference between cards and why one would work in one set of circumstances and not another.

                • 5. Re: System review assistance please
                  Baz R Level 3

                  Hi,

                   

                  Harm uses the same model, I am using the 16 port version.

                   

                  Areca are a very good brand for Raid and support Raid 3 & 30 the best for Video editing.

                   

                  the 1680ix is the top of the range model, untill the new 1880 range is out.

                   

                  from 12 port upto 24 port the card can be upgraded with 2gb or 4gb cache memory, stock is 512mb.

                   

                  The cards can be setup via the bios or http software that is included.

                   

                  baz

                  • 7. Re: System review assistance please
                    Harm Millaard Level 7

                    Areca is the only one to offer Raid3, which for video editing is the best choice. The Raid0 test on Tom's Hardware is not really relevant. For advanced raid arrays I consider Areca the Rolls-Royce under raid controllers, albeit at a price. Raid 5 is great for web applications, but not for video editing and with Areca being the only one to offer Raid3, you have no choice.

                     

                    Keep in mind that there are three regular contributors here, Baz, Bill G. and myself who all swear by Areca and whose benchmark results demonstrate its power.

                    • 8. Re: System review assistance please
                      cfsKC Level 1

                      Thank you gentlemen. Your assistance is very much appreciated.

                       

                      Now, I can concentrate on finding a builder. Thanks to Bill Hunt, I already have one but am open to any other suggestions anyone might care to offer.