7 Replies Latest reply on Jun 2, 2014 3:17 AM by heavyend81

    Add Date/Time Stamp to Timecode Effect

    Petrula Level 1

      The Timecode effect of CS5 Premiere Pro is a very useful feature. However, it is missing a Date/Time Stamp. I would encourage everyone to submit a feature request for this. I have enclosed one I submitted. You can cut and paste it into the Feature Request Submission Form.

       

      Feature Request Submission Form

       

      Feature Request: Add Date / Time Stamp to Timecode Effect

       

      The Timecode effect of CS5 Premiere Pro is a very useful feature. However, the Timecode effect is missing the ability to also display the Date/Time Stamp from Premiere captured video. This is a very important feature to include. Many videographers are archiving their miniDV tapes as AVI files since disk prices have become affordable. When I retrieve archived AVI files, I often need to look at the Date/Time Stamp, but unfortunately, Premiere does not offer that ability.

       

      I would encourage you to add Date/Time Stamp capability to the Timecode effect so timecode, date, and time could be displayed all at once, or selectively picked via checkboxes.

       

      Others in the Premiere forum have requested this capability.

      Date / Time Stamp - Premiere CS4

      http://forums.adobe.com/message/2564766

       

      Hopefully, you could add this as an update to CS5. And hopefully, as soon as possible. Thanks

        • 1. Re: Add Date/Time Stamp to Timecode Effect
          Jim_Simon Level 8

          I personally would not use such an effect, especially if burned in.

           

          DVMP is a stand alone application which can add such information to the file name, which I feel is the better archiving method.

           

          Adobe engineers are better off spending there time elsewhere.

          • 2. Re: Add Date/Time Stamp to Timecode Effect
            Petrula Level 1

             

            The Date/Time Stamp is an inherent part of the DV tape. Therefore, not having ready access to that information is unfortunate. Filenames are easily changed by mistake. Moreover, the time portion cannot be placed in the filename since it is continually changing. For scientific, documentary, and forensic work, this information is very useful. I do many documentaries and often need to refer back to when an interview occurred. I may not necessarily need to burn it into the final production.

             

            I noticed in the forum that others are looking for such an effect so it would be a productive use of Adobe’s time to have this effect. Unfortunately, DVMP Pro is not a plugin for Premiere Pro. So using it in a Premiere sequence is not possible. If Adobe receives enough Feature Request Submission Form submissions from others, they will devote resources to this.

            • 3. Re: Add Date/Time Stamp to Timecode Effect
              Colin Brougham Level 6
              The Date/Time Stamp is an inherent part of the DV tape. Therefore, not having ready access to that information is unfortunate. Filenames are easily changed by mistake. Moreover, the time portion cannot be placed in the filename since it is continually changing. For scientific, documentary, and forensic work, this information is very useful. I do many documentaries and often need to refer back to when an interview occurred. I may not necessarily need to burn it into the final production.

              Based on what you just said here, there is absolutely no need for what you're requesting. Premiere already has a pretty robust platform for viewing and editing automatically-generated and manually-entered metadata. You can set the Project panel or the Metadata panel to display fields like Date Created, Date Modified, and Shot Date. This screenshot shows shoot dates for a couple of clips from a miniDV tape and an MXF file:

               

              date-created.png

               

              I agree the information is useful, but requiring a plug-in or effect to access it would suck, especially since you can quickly filter in Premiere, or even Bridge with some formats, and find what you're looking for. You have ready access to the information (way faster than with an in-your-face effect that you later have to remove), and the data can't be changed (it's fixed to the file, unlike the filename).

               

              If you need burn-in, that's a different story, but as has been suggested there are some third-party apps that will take care of this.

              • 4. Re: Add Date/Time Stamp to Timecode Effect
                Jim_Simon Level 8
                For scientific, documentary, and forensic work, this information is very useful.

                 

                In which case you use a camera that burns it in for you, thus obviating the need for Adobe engineers to spend time on such a feature.

                • 5. Re: Add Date/Time Stamp to Timecode Effect
                  Anig Browl Level 1

                  I personally would not use such an effect, especially if burned in.

                   

                  Well...you don't have to if you don't want it

                   

                  But it would be be useful for other people. Sometimes you want a filename or other metadata displayed on screen, so you can give a copy to a non-technical person. I have had directors that hate computers, they want to watch raw footage at home on a DVD. So the properties for the Timecode plugin can be adjusted easily; an optional extra line of label text, and escape codes or a picker for metadata fields.

                   

                  Actually, After Effects allows this kind of thing already for anyone who really needs this, or one could use the AE SDK to code up a custom Premiere plugin. I seem to remember a previous version let you choose the font, color etc. for TC, which I sort of miss...

                  • 6. Re: Add Date/Time Stamp to Timecode Effect
                    D-Fest Level 1

                    In which case you use a camera that burns it in for you, thus obviating the need for Adobe engineers to spend time on such a feature.

                     

                    Adobe engineers are better off spending there time elsewhere.


                    Seriously? You make it seem like Adobe engineers are inept or something.  Would this be hard and extremely time consuming for them to translate metadata to text? So much so that it would keep them from the next great feature in AE that scans all effects and turnes "suck" into "epic?"

                    • 7. Re: Add Date/Time Stamp to Timecode Effect
                      heavyend81 Level 1

                      I am fairly new to Adobe CS6 however I have to totally disagree with some of the replies here on this subject. The package cost me well over £1200 and I expect a say in improving it along the way if I am to progress on to CS Cloud. The suggestion that engineers could spend their time elswere is total rubbish,its what they are well paid for..to listen to consumers suggestions and act on them (I am paying for their time).  I would for one love to see the simple add in plug where the original date/time code could be added and burned into the video timeline. It is obvously not something needed by all but for some it could be essential. For my work I entirely rely on the original date/time code to be visible and burned in. My work is editing surveilance video and I also have to pixellate all faces of young persons so the addition of a date and time code plug in is something I would like to see in After Effects and Premier. Adobe add hundreds of filters/plug-ins that nobody in the world are likely to ever see or use or even asked for, so I cant't see why it would be a big task for them to include it in CS6 or Cloud for the future, especially as many ask for it.

                       

                      On the suggestion of DVMPro, yes this is an excellent package which I already use along with vATS (which is quicker),  however the big downside for both these programmes is they do not combine the clips so if I put in 60. mts clips I will get  out 60 clips of what ever format I picked (limited to AVI/Wmv/AVCHD). You would then need combine and re-render the clips or work along the timeline with lots of clips (obviously not in AE as it wont combine clips along one layer....at least I cant see a way to do it (no doubt will be flamed on that one)

                       

                      Sony vegas 11 also does not have the capability neither to add and burn in the original timecode however there is an excellent and tiny .dll third party extension called SVDTS that will add the original time/date/seconds to the timeline and burn in to the video. My point on this comparison is that it would not take a lot of time and work for a capable Adobe enineer to develop and implement such a plug in.

                       

                      A crude way and free to actually achieve this is to use Freemake Video Converter, add all  your .mts (or what ever format they are so long as its original), turn on the Subtitle 1 option for each clip (no batch turn on Im afraid) and chose to join the clips for output to what ever file format you choose. The original timecode and date will be on your output video clip, not as pretty as DVMPro or vAts but is there and accurate.