8 Replies Latest reply on Aug 2, 2007 6:18 PM by Newsgroup_User

    Web site statistics: browser types

    Level 7
      I have just started getting statistics for two of my web sites, and find myself
      with many pages of esoteric statistics.

      One table that caught my eye was number of visits by browser type. Combining
      the two sites the total number of visits was over 8000, and these were broken up
      as follows:

      Unknown: 75%
      IE6 11.4%
      Netscape 4 5.2%
      Netscape 7 4.7%
      AOL9x: 2.0%
      Everything else <2%

      I thought that the "unknown" may have been search engines, but then I found a
      separate table of visits by search engines, which showed much smaller numbers of
      visits. This leaves me with the quandary of deciding how I can test my web site
      to ensure that it is compatible with the "unknown" browsers used by 75% of my
      visitors?

      Clancy
        • 1. Re: Web site statistics: browser types
          Level 7
          I would ask your host why their stats suck so badly. Unknown:75%? Please.

          --

          Walt


          "Clancy" <clancy@cybec.com.au> wrote in message
          news:72e2b3pauo8i44rrg3lceadnai3f1mt5nc@4ax.com...
          >I have just started getting statistics for two of my web sites, and find
          >myself
          > with many pages of esoteric statistics.
          >
          > One table that caught my eye was number of visits by browser type.
          > Combining
          > the two sites the total number of visits was over 8000, and these were
          > broken up
          > as follows:
          >
          > Unknown: 75%
          > IE6 11.4%
          > Netscape 4 5.2%
          > Netscape 7 4.7%
          > AOL9x: 2.0%
          > Everything else <2%
          >
          > I thought that the "unknown" may have been search engines, but then I
          > found a
          > separate table of visits by search engines, which showed much smaller
          > numbers of
          > visits. This leaves me with the quandary of deciding how I can test my
          > web site
          > to ensure that it is compatible with the "unknown" browsers used by 75% of
          > my
          > visitors?
          >
          > Clancy


          • 2. Re: Web site statistics: browser types
            Dooza (Steve) Level 2
            Its probably IE7, the stats program needs to be updated with the new browser details.
            • 3. Re: Web site statistics: browser types
              Level 7
              On 01 Aug 2007 in macromedia.dreamweaver, Clancy wrote:

              > I have just started getting statistics for two of my web sites, and
              > find myself with many pages of esoteric statistics.
              >
              > One table that caught my eye was number of visits by browser type.
              > Combining the two sites the total number of visits was over 8000,
              > and these were broken up as follows:
              >
              > Unknown: 75%
              > IE6 11.4%
              > Netscape 4 5.2%
              > Netscape 7 4.7%
              > AOL9x: 2.0%
              > Everything else <2%
              >
              > I thought that the "unknown" may have been search engines, but then
              > I found a separate table of visits by search engines, which showed
              > much smaller numbers of visits. This leaves me with the quandary of
              > deciding how I can test my web site to ensure that it is compatible
              > with the "unknown" browsers used by 75% of my visitors?

              I don't see Firefox in the statistics, and it should (depending on the
              site) be ringing up somewhere in the 5-20% range. I agree with Walt -
              the stat analysis package is outdated. Either get your host to update
              it, or get the raw logs and analyze them yourself.

              --
              Joe Makowiec
              http://makowiec.net/
              Email: http://makowiec.net/contact.php
              • 4. Re: Web site statistics: browser types
                Level 7
                Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> wrote:

                >I don't see Firefox in the statistics, and it should (depending on the
                >site) be ringing up somewhere in the 5-20% range. I agree with Walt -
                >the stat analysis package is outdated. Either get your host to update
                >it, or get the raw logs and analyze them yourself.

                Thank you all for your suggestions. It does indeed look as if the statistics
                generator is seriously outdated. The number of visits from unknown browsers
                roughly matches the number of visits from unknown operating systems, and neither
                IE7 or Vista are listed.

                And the only Firefox listed is version one, and this is responsible for less
                than one in 200 visits. I will give the host a stir, and see if they can do any
                better. But I certainly don't want to get the raw logs and plough through them
                myself!


                Clancy
                • 5. Re: Web site statistics: browser types
                  Level 7
                  On 02 Aug 2007 in macromedia.dreamweaver, Clancy wrote:

                  > But I certainly don't want to get the raw logs and plough through
                  > them myself!

                  You don't need to; there are a number of logfile analyzers available
                  for various operating systems.

                  Run locally:

                  http://www.mrunix.net/webalizer/
                  http://www.analog.cx/

                  Runs on server:

                  http://awstats.sourceforge.net/

                  The three mentioned above are available at no cost. Others:

                  http://www.google.com/search?q=logfile+analyzer

                  --
                  Joe Makowiec
                  http://makowiec.net/
                  Email: http://makowiec.net/contact.php
                  • 6. Re: Web site statistics: browser types
                    Level 7
                    Who is your host, Clancy?

                    --
                    Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                    Adobe Community Expert
                    (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
                    ==================
                    http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage!
                    http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                    http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
                    http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes
                    ==================


                    "Clancy" <clancy@cybec.com.au> wrote in message
                    news:u9j3b318oe5n0pdgi9l3haurnk6oqij84n@4ax.com...
                    > Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> wrote:
                    >
                    >>I don't see Firefox in the statistics, and it should (depending on the
                    >>site) be ringing up somewhere in the 5-20% range. I agree with Walt -
                    >>the stat analysis package is outdated. Either get your host to update
                    >>it, or get the raw logs and analyze them yourself.
                    >
                    > Thank you all for your suggestions. It does indeed look as if the
                    > statistics
                    > generator is seriously outdated. The number of visits from unknown
                    > browsers
                    > roughly matches the number of visits from unknown operating systems, and
                    > neither
                    > IE7 or Vista are listed.
                    >
                    > And the only Firefox listed is version one, and this is responsible for
                    > less
                    > than one in 200 visits. I will give the host a stir, and see if they can
                    > do any
                    > better. But I certainly don't want to get the raw logs and plough through
                    > them
                    > myself!
                    >
                    >
                    > Clancy


                    • 7. Re: Web site statistics: browser types
                      Level 7
                      "Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote:

                      >Who is your host, Clancy?

                      Westnet: http://www.westnet.com.au/

                      Generally they give pretty good service, and I am happy to recommend them.
                      However I gather that the quality of service available here is still pretty
                      primitive compared with what is available in some other countries, and you will
                      probably consider the prices astronomical.

                      Clancy
                      • 8. Re: Web site statistics: browser types
                        Level 7
                        On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:20:08 +1000, Clancy <clancy@cybec.com.au>
                        wrote:

                        >"Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote:
                        >
                        >>Who is your host, Clancy?
                        >
                        >Westnet: http://www.westnet.com.au/
                        >
                        >Generally they give pretty good service, and I am happy to recommend them.
                        >However I gather that the quality of service available here is still pretty
                        >primitive compared with what is available in some other countries, and you will
                        >probably consider the prices astronomical.
                        >
                        >Clancy

                        Clancy, if you want a good reliable Australian hosting company, I use
                        WebStrike Solutions:

                        http://www.webstrikesolutions.com/

                        Head office is in Australia, but their servers are in the US and their
                        quoted prices are in US dollars - but the charge that hits my credit
                        card is in Australian converted to Canadian dollars.

                        Win
                        --
                        Win Day, Wild Rose Websites
                        http://www.wildrosewebsites.com
                        winday@NOSPAMwildrosewebsites.com
                        Skype winifredday