25 Replies Latest reply on Aug 26, 2013 5:26 PM by RobertoBlake

    How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?

    SNAREDESIGN Level 1

      Hi, I am new to Premiere Pro CS5 on my Mac.

       

      Previously I have quickly and very easily thrown together tons video and stills, all with ken burns etc in iMovie and there a some good easy to use transitions and I love the CROSS ZOOM one a lot, so quick and easy!

       

      I am immediately regretting buying Premiere Pro I thought it would be 100 times better with shed loads of effects and cooler stuff than some cheepy like iMovie!

       

      There only seems to be a very limited amount of transitions, that you have to tediously 'customise' and save as presets?

       

      PLEASE help me find or recreate this simple CROSS ZOOM effect, and how where can I get a lot more effects 'off the shelf' so to speak?

       

      Many thanks.

        • 1. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
          Harm Millaard Level 7

          PR does not have the one button approach to use all these cheesy effects or transitions. Magix, PrE, Pinnacle and similar consumer programs are the way to go for that approach.

           

          With PR one uses the built in effects or transitions, AE or plug-ins from Boris, RedGiant, ProDad, Pixelan, and the like for effects and transitions. Look on the plug-ins page for PR. http://www.adobe.com/products/plugins/premiere/

           

          There only seems to be a very limited amount of transitions, that you have to tediously 'customise' and save as presets?

           

          Did you have a look at the near endless list of effects and transitions? What more do you need than a cross dissolve or dip to...?

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          • 2. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
            SNAREDESIGN Level 1

            Hi,

             

            Thanks for the reply!

            not have the one button approach to use all these cheesy effects or transitions

             

            Cheesy Oh YES! Sometimes those are the things a project requires! I'm doing stuff that has to appeal to a youth market, skate boarding, with graffiti stills zooming in and out with camera shake and all that kind of 'cheesy stuff' and the cross zooms all synchronised up to the beats of a cool music track!

             

            The kind of stuff you see all the time of kids TV! But only very professionally done! Yes I do want more control over some of this "cheese" as you call it, I think I have made a serious error here!

            What more do you need than a cross dissolve or dip to?

            When I'm making a documentary or a simple holiday movie I will go for some more gentle fades and possibly even simple cuts! But I could do all the with a one button application. What have I spent all my hard earned money on!

             

            But right now I want to something funky and cool, and quickly!

             

            Did you have a look at the near endless list of effects and transitions? What more do you need than a cross dissolve or dip to...?
            Where? There are only 2 dissolves and no zoom effects - I must be missing something here please help, ENDLESS????

             

            Im VERY confused I don't consider myself an idiot! BUt this is really doing me in...

             

            Regards,
            Andy.

            • 4. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
              SNAREDESIGN Level 1

              Thanks,

              I have typed ans searched for "zoom" everywhere all I have in Video Transitions is this???

              Any ideas,

              Thanks,

              Andy.

               

              where.jpg

              • 5. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                Harm Millaard Level 7

                Andy,

                 

                This is on my system:

                 

                1-8-2010 11-32-11.jpg

                It looks like your installation is incomplete. Try a reinstall or repair install. Note: Pixelan is a plug-in that will only appear if you have that plug-in installed. For the rest you ought to have all these transitions.

                • 6. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                  SNAREDESIGN Level 1

                  Hi Harm,

                  Are you PC or Mac I just found a post on the net (from 2008) saying that the Mac version CS4 only has 20 transitions where as the PC has 76 - THATS SHOCKING!

                   

                  If this is still true of CS5 I will be very very upset!

                   

                  Kind regards,

                  Andy.

                  • 7. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                    Harm Millaard Level 7

                    I'm on a PC, but the difference between MAC and PC has been reduced dramatically or even disappeared with CS5 and since you posted in the CS5 forum, I naturally assumed you were talking about CS5.

                     

                    If you are on CS4, you should have posted in the CS4 forum, and yes, the Zoom function in CS4 on the MAC is lacking.

                    • 8. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                      SNAREDESIGN Level 1

                      I am on a Mac with brand new CS5! I am new to CS5!

                       

                      I think I have been short changed by Adobe!

                       

                      But I will check if my installation is complete (I pretty sure it is) or wait until my question gets answered.

                       

                      In the mean time if any one knows how to create the 'cross zoom' effect manually I would be very interested to know how to do it.

                       

                      Many thanks for your help so far Harm.

                      My question remains open.

                      • 9. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                        Harm Millaard Level 7

                        You have to wait for a MAC owner to chime in, because the only MAC thing I like is MAC addressing.

                        • 10. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                          Powered by Design Level 4

                          Andy

                           

                          Since your on a Mac could you please do a screen capture off all the video effects all opened up so that I could make a side by side version for CS5.

                           

                          You might have to open the effects panel up to full and take a few with overlapping shots to get them all.

                           

                          That way we all know what is missing in the Mac version.

                           

                          Here is a list of the effects for Windows.

                           

                          GLenn

                           

                          ..................................................

                           

                          Premiere-CS5-Video-Transitions-Windows.jpg

                          • 11. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                            Powered by Design Level 4

                            The image looks blurry but will look clear if opened up in a new tab.

                             

                            I guess the forum software doesnt like images so large.

                             

                            its only 275 x 1660

                             

                            GLenn

                            • 12. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                              Taverino Level 2

                              I can confirm that CS5 for Mac still has the reduced set of transitions exactly as Andy has shown in his screen shot above.

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                              • 13. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                                SNAREDESIGN Level 1

                                Thanks GLenn,

                                Your lovely long list of Transitiosn is making me green with envy and I'm bloody furious with Adobe. I should have all those- I paid for them! I even spoke to someone at Adobe and they assured me the Cross Zoom was available - but I supose they only meant the PC version.

                                I've just wasted over £800! and I'm going to try and get my money back!

                                 

                                Beware my Mac users! LOTS OF MISSING TRANSITIONS IN ADOBE PREMIER PRO CS5

                                 

                                I appreciate everyones comments etc. I'm still up for someone pointing me in the direction where I may be able to get these transitions from a third party or am I whistling in the wind. OR how can I achieve the effect with what I have got, or am I whistling in the wind?

                                 

                                Any suggestions would be very welcome.

                                 

                                THESE ARE THE BASIC 20 TRANSITIONS YOU GET WITH MAC PREMIER PRO CS5

                                 

                                I hope Google picks these pages up and spreads the word.

                                 

                                20transitions.jpg

                                • 14. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                                  SNAREDESIGN Level 1

                                  Hi Taverino thanks for your answer!

                                   

                                  I don't believe it! this leaves me feeling royally ripped off!

                                   

                                  Adobe you have done a serious dirty on me! - it will take a very long time for me to forgive you!

                                   

                                  Can I do something similar in After Effects? I'm frightened to start getting into that incase there are a of other missing bits in AF as well for us Mac people.

                                   

                                  Can any one advise on how, where to get these efects from or a tutorial on how to manually make a Cross Zoom transition with what I have?

                                   

                                  Today has not been a good day!

                                   

                                  But thanks forum guys,

                                  Andy.

                                  • 15. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                                    the_wine_snob Level 9

                                    Andy,

                                     

                                    This LIST is from CS4, but probably is very close for CS5. Some Effects & Transitions were removed (due to 64-bit) from the PC, as well.

                                     

                                    Hope that this helps and good luck,

                                     

                                    Hunt

                                    • 16. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                                      Powered by Design Level 4

                                      Here is a list with the missing transactions from CS5.

                                       

                                      its 550 x 2000 so open in new window to see clear if its blurry here.

                                       

                                      The scale to fit doesnt like images larger then the 450 x 600

                                       

                                       

                                      GLenn

                                       

                                       

                                      Premiere-CS5-Video-Transitions-Win-Mac-51-missing.jpg

                                      • 17. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                                        Stan Jones Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                        Thanks for providing the updated list and the quote by Wil.

                                         

                                        Andy, note that quote at the end.  That was part of some discussion here not only about Mac effects/transitions, but some dropped in CS5 for PCs.  If there's one you care about, file a feature request.

                                        • 18. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                                          shooternz Level 6

                                          Cross Zoom is so easy to make.

                                           

                                          Use Key frames in Video Effects>  Motion> Scale  to zoom in on the tail of one clip.  ..and same to zoom out on the head of the following clip.

                                           

                                          Throw in Rotate keyframes, opacity, blend modes etc...and you could even craft something unique to your own creativity.

                                          • 19. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                                            the_wine_snob Level 9

                                            Craig,

                                             

                                            Remember, even if you manually craft a Page Curl Transition, you still only get one use of that, just like the regular Page Curl Transition - one per customer!

                                             

                                            Hunt

                                            • 20. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                                              shooternz Level 6

                                              I would copy the Key Frames from the clip ... or even the entire Motion Effect to other clips... should I need it again in the same Project.

                                               

                                              I was unable to offer the O.P the  "one click" solution that he was looking for

                                               

                                               

                                              • 21. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                                                Colin Brougham Level 6

                                                This could be easily saved to an effect preset, too--Motion effects are candidates for this. Create one for the scale up (pin it to the end of the clip) and one for the scale down (pin to the head). I build tons of effects this way, and frankly prefer it, because you have a lot more flexibility that with fixed transitions.

                                                 

                                                And call me crazy, but anyone weighing the relative merits of a particular NLE based on the cheesy/awful transitions it does or doesn't have, and decrying it as a waste of money, doesn't need an NLE of that level. There are far less expensive "editors" out there (many of them free and included with operating systems) that fill this retina-abusing niche perfectly well. I would GLADLY trade up all of the unused transitions and effects in my PC install for a nice, clean list like on the Mac version. I realize that everything has its place and purpose--just not on my system. Keep up the pruning, Adobe!

                                                • 22. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                                                  the_wine_snob Level 9

                                                  Colin,

                                                   

                                                  Of course, one could look to the add-ons, like Pixelan Spice, ProDAD Heroglyph or similar. Also, Hollywood FX can provide about 20,000,000 Transitions, and should work in most NLE's, though I do not know about CS5 - yet.

                                                   

                                                  Hunt

                                                  • 23. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                                                    Colin Brougham Level 6

                                                    And that's all fine and good--keep these things the domain of third parties. I own and use Pixelan 3D Six Pack on a regular basis--I've got a client who loooooves exploding graphics, and it fits the bill. Some of the slides are nice, too, for animating PowerPoint-style text bullets. But I bought an editor because, well, I have to edit--and if it means that to make the editing in Premiere better, Adobe has to chuck out some hackneyed old transitions and effects, more power to them None of these third-party packages are that expensive; if you really need these sorts of things, they are accessible for not much coin. For me, straight cuts are free... hmm, think I'll have a t-shirt made with that slogan.

                                                     

                                                    Paint Splatter--now THERE'S a useful transition!

                                                    • 24. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                                                      the_wine_snob Level 9

                                                      Oh, I agree with you. Third-party is the correct domain. PrPro does not need to include everything.

                                                       

                                                      It's like the SurCode DD 5.1 SS encoder plug-in. Users, who do not need it, should not need to pay for it. That is what Minnetonka is for. Same for a myriad number of Transitions, and Effects - Red Giant, and others, will provide what users need, when and where they need it.

                                                       

                                                      Hunt

                                                      • 25. Re: How or where is the CROSS ZOOM transition?
                                                        RobertoBlake Level 2

                                                        I actually in my action video and music videos had some decent results using CrossZoom and for the type of thing i was doing it was a pretty good effect actually. If I wanted to manually create that effect I would be doing that sort of thing in After Effects CC but the thing I used to like about Premiere Pro was there was quite a bit I could do natively without relying on After Effects. I don't like that legacy things that we are used to are gone from CC, at least give us the option of enabling them.Sheesh.