Should also mention that I run absolutely no other software during the rendering process and close out all non-essential background programs.
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Can you provide some more specifics please? OS, comp size, rendering locally/network, using source footage (if so, what kind), etc...
Happy to provide the information:
Core-i7-860 Lynnfield (L) 2.8 GHz (95W)
Intel P55 Chipset
80GB Solid State Drive
2TB 7200RPM HDD w/ 64MB Cache
ATI Radeon HD 5770 GPU
The computer is networked, but this is rendering locally. The graphics were all generated within After Effects using a very basic Fractal Noise effect.
I just gave it another shot and received a blue screen. I cought the words "IRQL Less or Equal" but it went by to fast for me to see the whole thing, or to know what that means.
Let me know if you have any more questions. Thanks for your quick response!
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You don't happen to have turned on OpenGL rendering by accident, did you?
Does this happen in one project or all projects?
What happens if you create a new project and render out a composition with no effects at all?
What sort of memory and multiprocessing settings do you have?
Also, what OS are you using? (I'm guessing Windows of some sort based on the "blue screen" comment and the error fragment that got mentioned, but knowing the flavor of Windows would possibly be useful.)
Oh yes you're right, it's Windows 7 Ultimate. I forgot to mention that!
Where would I turn off OpenGL if by chance I have it on?
It happens on all of the projects that I tend to do.
However I just tested it on some raw footage (only 30 seconds worth from Artbeats) and it worked fine. I'll try some longer footage in just a moment, but I wanted to go ahead and get this answer to you.
I always render to uncompressed AVI until the entire project is complete and then I pull it together in Premiere using H.264
Current memory settings are 3GB reserved for other applications, 2 CPUs reserved for other applications, 2GB RAM allocation per background CPU, 5 actual CPUs that will be used.
BTW I am new to CS5, having just migrated up from CS4. So please forgive any ignorance on my part. Thank you!
No problems as of yet rendering a file with no effects. It's been rendering now for 12 minutes and 36 seconds. (9,430 frames).
I apologize for continuously adding posts here. But my work does tend to involve a large number of effects, frequently from third-party plugins. (However this particular footage does not involve any third-party plugins, it uses only AE standard effects.)
> Where would I turn off OpenGL if by chance I have it on?
See this page.
It seems that you're in good hands with the troubleshooting on this thread already, but I'll check back in later today and see if you need any more help.
It looks like this might have been the problem! It's now been rendering more than 10 minutes, which is more than in the past. It still has an hour to go.
Thank you everyone for your help! If anything else comes up, I'll be back. But right now, I'm very pleased.
Sad to say it failed again. :/
In what format (codec) is the source footage that you are using? Are you using separate audio files? If so, in what format are they?
No audio for these files. When there is source footage (which there isn't in this case), it's ACVHD.
Actually I take that back, I usually render the ACVHD files into uncompressed AVI's in Premiere before bringing them into AE.
Are you using any fonts that may be problematic? Have you installed any 3rd party codec packs? If so, try uninstalling them (fonts/packs). If there's not much to the project size-wise, can you post your project so we can try it? One other thing...do you have any alternate input devices installed?
No I don't have any third party stuff installed yet, although I intend to. And there are no alternate input devices.
I'd be more than happy to post the project. How do I post it?
If you don't have an FTP, you could use one of the many free file-hosting websites (i.e. yousendit). However, I get the feeling it's something related to your setup more than the project file. Also, I don't have CS5 yet, but I'm sure one of the other locals could help you there (files aren't backwards compatible).
I have a 2 processor 8 core machine with 16 gigs and 2 gig on the video. What I found was that when I ran it full bore it still got hot. I put in High performance ram with coolers and used a thermaltake case and it stopped hanging, btw it gave all sorts of different errors when it died, I think the ram getting hot was behind it. If this is a new machine perhaps you have issues with cooling. There are a few utilities for monitoring temps - speedfan, nhc and a few others. Some boards crash the system to prevent overheating, passive cooling. Intel has a utility to dump your acpi tables so you can learn what speeds you fans are supposed to run at what temp, when it goes into passive cooling.
Looks like you figured it out. My computer is running at shockingly high temperatures while CS5 renders.
Thank you for pointing that out. I never would have thought of that!
Before I go buy a new case and all that, I am assuming that 85 degrees celcius is too hot for the processor cores to be running at?
you could always try cooling it manually,.. err
try finding a blow dryer that has an air only mode, most have them, and try running it holding they blowdryer right on your memory or cpu. if you didn't get high performance ram, and cooling tabs for the memory try cooling the memory. When memory gets too hot it starts flaking out. Also even the smallest amount of dust can cause your surfaces to cool poorly, MIT did a study that showed tiny layers of dust caused heating issues. Every now and then I take a dive tank pressurized to 200 bar and blow out everything..
Problem is testing it. almost none of the testing programs I saw got close to AE running full bore.
I've seen desktops with passive cooling at 85c the system dies instantly, you need to look at the apci tables to see what your system is set for.
I got a thermaltake case, it's alike a vacuum cleaner ,.. but different.
I guess if you want to test it try the hair dryer in cold mode. My system running 5-6 cores ND 13-14G ram runs about 65c still warm but not hot.
heres more about the apci tables http://download.intel.com/technology/framework/docs/AcpiTblStor.pdf
Yeah, as it turns out, your cpu temps are pretty hot compared to other users of the same chips. I imagine your ram is getting hot as well. Funny thing is only after effects crashed the system so I ran about thinking it was a software issue. I'm putting money on you overheating.
Any recommended fixes? Can I do this without replacing the whole computer? Maybe just a new case and cooling system? Recommendations?
Your information is VERY helpful!
In your render panel, click on render settings and enable openGL render.
I'd possibly also look at changing your color depth in your project settings to 32bpc rather than 8, I am using cs5 by the way. Adobe should really put a warning message up about effects that require a certain color depth.
Adobe should really put a warning message up about effects that require a certain color depth.
They do. Did you ever wonder what those little numbers -- 8, 16, etc. -- on the effect icons meant?
nope - it doesn't appear on the standard layout in AE friend.
Either way, the problem is with rendering not composing. You add the effect in and it previews fine. You go to export and it craps out - , without a warning or providing an error message. There should be a standard warning that comes up for this if its cgoing to likely crash your render don't you think?