5 Replies Latest reply on Jul 30, 2007 10:31 AM by Newsgroup_User

    Having one Web Slice on top of another

    cozzabags
      In Imageready, you can have one slice on top of the other. When it comes to saving them out, you just turn one off and save the selected slice out. In Fireworks, no matter what I do, it always tries to include the slice on top in the saving. So even if I have ti turned off it still breaks up my image into four slices, to counter for the extra one on top.

      Is there any way around this? Can I have one slice on top of the other and turn them on or off to save out?

      Thanks for any help offered.
        • 1. Re: Having one Web Slice on top of another
          Level 7
          cozzabags wrote:
          > In Imageready, you can have one slice on top of the other. When it comes to
          > saving them out, you just turn one off and save the selected slice out. In
          > Fireworks, no matter what I do, it always tries to include the slice on top in
          > the saving. So even if I have ti turned off it still breaks up my image into
          > four slices, to counter for the extra one on top.
          >
          > Is there any way around this? Can I have one slice on top of the other and
          > turn them on or off to save out?
          >
          > Thanks for any help offered.
          >

          One way to deal with this is to select one slice and right click to
          choose Export Selected Slice.

          With FW CS3, you could create a duplicate page and put any of the
          overlapping slices on one of those pages.

          Here are some other tips from an article I wrote on the subject for FW8.
          (I'm currently working on a new piece that covers FW CS3):

          The topmost slice controls the dimensions and slicing of the underlying
          slice. So if the upper slice is smaller, you get extra sliced images.
          Hiding the slice from view will not fix the problem.

          So what is the best way to solve this? Well, ideally, do not overlap any
          slices. If a background image is needed for tiling, then recreate that
          segment somewhere else on the canvas where there are no other slices.
          This is practical, but can make your design look a little strange if the
          client is viewing it and you haven't hidden those "special bits" from view.

          If you must overlap your slices, you will have to take some extra steps
          to guarantee your images get sliced as expected.

          1. If your slices are different dimensions, make sure the smaller
          slice is underneath the larger overlapping slice in the Layers panel. By
          smaller, I mean smaller in both height and width.
          2. You can either go to File > Export to export all the topmost
          slices or just select the larger overlapping slice and use the Export
          Selected slice option.
          3. In the layers panel, move the lower (smaller) slice object above
          the other slice. Essentially, you are reversing the stacking order of
          the overlapping slices.
          4. Select and export the topmost overlapping slice using Export
          Selected Slice from the context menu or from the main export dialog.

          If your slices are only different along one dimension (height or width),
          you will still have to flip the stacking order, but to guarantee a
          proper export, you will have to select each slice independently and use
          the Export Selected Slice feature for each slice.

          If you're interested in the full article, you can find it here:

          http://www.communitymx.com/abstract.cfm?cid=5A1C9

          HTH!


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          • 2. Re: Having one Web Slice on top of another
            cozzabags Level 1
            Hi there Jim,

            That does help to put it into perspective a lot. It's a shame that Adobe have decided to get rid of Imageready as I am already finding out the drawbacks of slicing with Firefox.

            Glad to know there is some way of doing it at least, thanks very much for your help.

            Paul
            • 3. Re: Having one Web Slice on top of another
              Level 7
              cozzabags wrote:
              > Hi there Jim,
              >
              > That does help to put it into perspective a lot. It's a shame that Adobe have
              > decided to get rid of Imageready as I am already finding out the drawbacks of
              > slicing with Firefox.
              >
              > Glad to know there is some way of doing it at least, thanks very much for your
              > help.
              >
              > Paul
              >

              Hi Paul:

              I'm glad I was of help, but don't count out Fireworks yet. The workflow
              is different that IR and in many ways much more flexible.

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              • 4. Re: Having one Web Slice on top of another
                cozzabags Level 1
                Thanks Jim. I have actually gone back to CS2 already :) I think the main issue is not being able to sit slice sets on top of each other. The more pages I create, the more I have to update every time I want to change the design, which will slow things down a lot.

                I'm going to hold out and see what happens with the next release, hopefully they will bring back IR or add more features to Fireworks, fingers crossed :)

                Thanks again for your time.
                • 5. Re: Having one Web Slice on top of another
                  Level 7
                  cozzabags wrote:
                  > Thanks Jim. I have actually gone back to CS2 already :) I think the main issue
                  > is not being able to sit slice sets on top of each other. The more pages I
                  > create, the more I have to update every time I want to change the design, which
                  > will slow things down a lot.
                  >
                  > I'm going to hold out and see what happens with the next release, hopefully
                  > they will bring back IR or add more features to Fireworks, fingers crossed :)
                  >
                  > Thanks again for your time.
                  >

                  You're welcome.

                  You do know that you can also share layers and web layers across pages,
                  right? That may (or may not) help you.

                  If you care to share a file, perhaps a workflow could be created, too.

                  If not, at least you had CS2 kicking around.

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