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1. Re: Blu-ray menus always encoded with MPEG2
Giorgio1957 Aug 27, 2010 9:12 AM (in response to pepelugil@chomp)When you've opened Encore, you've to set the BlueRay transcode option.
To do this, you open the File windows and set your default transcoding.
This will be reported in the main window, where all your stuff is (menu, film, timeline etc).
This window will display BlueRay as well as DVD option: look at the right ones!!
Ciao
Giorgio
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2. Re: Blu-ray menus always encoded with MPEG2
pepelugil@chomp Aug 27, 2010 2:45 PM (in response to Giorgio1957)Maybe I didn't explain me ok in my first post, but what I wanted to say is that videos imported as asset are correctly transcoded with H264, but menus are created always with MPEG2 (imported from Encore library, from psd file or directly created in Encore).
I've checked the transcoding options you've said but they don't change anything with menus... Movie is H264, but menus are MPEG2.
Greetings
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3. Re: Blu-ray menus always encoded with MPEG2
Larry Applegate Aug 27, 2010 3:57 PM (in response to pepelugil@chomp)The title above says it, there is no ability in Encore to do otherwise.
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4. Re: Blu-ray menus always encoded with MPEG2
pepelugil@chomp Aug 27, 2010 11:01 PM (in response to Larry Applegate)So this is a bug (as Encore can encode in H264 the movie), or it's just what Adobe had in mind when designing the program (that is, they have some manual or FAQ that I haven't found where they say that menus can be only MPEG2)?
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5. Re: Blu-ray menus always encoded with MPEG2
Larry Applegate Aug 28, 2010 12:56 AM (in response to pepelugil@chomp)I think it is just because they haven't got around to doing it. Since menus have buttons and often the normal state of the button is actually part of the video or still, you can't encode a menu separately from the navigation. So the original menu code was written for MPEG2 before there was H264.
Regards,
Larry
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6. Re: Blu-ray menus always encoded with MPEG2
pepelugil@chomp Aug 28, 2010 4:52 AM (in response to Larry Applegate)Thanks, then it seems that we'll have to wait and see if H264 menus are implemented on next Encore release.
Greetings
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7. Re: Blu-ray menus always encoded with MPEG2
Ann Bens Aug 28, 2010 6:49 AM (in response to pepelugil@chomp)Do you think menu's encode with H264 will look better?
You could always file a feature request.
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
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8. Re: Blu-ray menus always encoded with MPEG2
pepelugil@chomp Aug 30, 2010 12:07 AM (in response to Ann Bens)If it's a motion menu, sure it'll look better (at same or even lower bitrate).
Greetings
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9. Re: Blu-ray menus always encoded with MPEG2
ar1978 Aug 30, 2010 1:59 PM (in response to pepelugil@chomp)In CS5 the navigation appears to be separate from the video, so if you really need AVC menu streams you could probably try transcoding. In attempting to modify HDMV to look like AVCHD I found that PowerDVD will not play an Mpeg2 menu, so that's one place where it might be necessary to have an AVC menu. I have done the following to get around the PowerDVD issue. So far it doesn't seem to cause any other problems. It's not well tested, and it may or may not work for you.
1 - Open HDMV in BDedit
2 - Modify Playlist for AVC in BDedit
3 - Demux m2ts with tsMuxer
4 - Transcode video to AVC with Premiere
5 - Mux transcoded video using tsMuxer and replace m2ts
6 - Modify Clipinf with BDedt for AVC ("Apply to clpi" in playlist) and changed packets
Note: CS4 navigation is different, and I'm not aware of a way to get an AVC menu without losing the menu controls.
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10. Re: Blu-ray menus always encoded with MPEG2
Larry Applegate Aug 30, 2010 2:41 PM (in response to ar1978)Sorry, that is incorrect. All Blu-ray players are required to play MPEG-2. I have played many Encore projects, with and without motion menus, on PowerDVD. The menus are all MPEG-2, I have looked with our BluStreak AfterEdit software.
Regards,
Larry
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11. Re: Blu-ray menus always encoded with MPEG2
ar1978 Aug 30, 2010 3:47 PM (in response to pepelugil@chomp)Maybe I could have been more specific. What I said was that PowerDVD may have issue with out-of-spec AVCHD discs. AVCHD only supports AVC, so an Mpeg2 menu is out-of-spec. On some players, like the PS3, the out-of-spec menu doesn't matter and you can play the HDMV from DVD media by adding AVCHD extended information. Anyway the main reason I replied was to point out that in CS5 the video appears to be separate from the menu controls, unlike CS4 where the menu and video both appear to be in the m2ts, so if for some reason someone needed AVC menus it might be possible without too much modification.
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12. Re: Blu-ray menus always encoded with MPEG2
pepelugil@chomp Aug 31, 2010 3:52 AM (in response to ar1978)Thanks ar1978,
I'm also using BDedit (what a great tool) in order to correct some thing I don't like in Encore outputs, and as you said, I just encode menu at MPEG-2@40Mbps and then transcode it with x264 (much better than Mainconcept encoder) to a lower bitrate.
Greetings
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13. Re: Blu-ray menus always encoded with MPEG2
ar1978 Sep 1, 2010 8:37 AM (in response to pepelugil@chomp)It may also be possible to transcode and have the modifications done by multiAVCHD re-authoring. There is a transcode option when you go to properties for the playlist.



