I am building whole webpages in Fireworks on the design and button work.
This is a very poor approach. The HTML written by FW (or by any graphics application) is unsuitable for production work, and will break unexpectedly as you begin to add page content to it. You can use FW to design the graphics, but you should definitely build your HTML in DW.
Taking a Fireworks comp to a CSS-based layout in Dreamweaver
http://tinyurl.com/2a2o44g (this links to the following URL - http://www.adobe.com/devnet/fireworks/articles/web_standards_layouts_pt1.html)
http://tinyurl.com/23dmder (this links to the following URL - http://www.adobe.com/devnet/fireworks/articles/web_standards_layouts_pt2.html)
Neither of your links work. I may have not explained myself well. It is the buttons, button states, links, rollovers and such that I am building in Fireworks along with the designs for the page. The rest of the code, I add once in Dreamweaver but I bring in the png with the design there. It is how to import the HTM and keep it intact, as we could with CS3 and CS4 that I am not achieving in CS5.
Try again please - this is a forum software glitch....
I think it is unwise to use *any* FW HTML at all, even the bit you are describing.
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Links just won't work. When I am done with the png and export it to Dreamweaver, I bring the code to w3c.org standards that is output by Fireworks. If I am building a swf in Flash is very similar to what I am achieving with Fireworks in a png. Acceptable or not to someone else, if I can use that htm as part of my xhtml strict and achieve my goal, is what I would like to achieve with CS5 as I did with CS3 and CS4.
This is not the page that I am currently working with but an example of how I am using these png's. http://www.localclipz.com/index.html
Sorry about that!
Try this link -
I bring the code to w3c.org standards that is output by Fireworks.
The problem is not with the code meeting standards, it's with the code being designed in a monolithic fashion. FW does its best to make the code EXACTLY reproduce the graphic layout you have used, and it does a good job with that. But as soon as your content changes 'shape' the layout falls apart. It's this issue that FW cannot anticipate, but that you as a web developer can and should as you build your pages. FW's HTML is NOT suitable for production work, period, and is only useful for rapid prototyping of website layouts for presentations.
That article is exactly what I am talking about using. When I go to do the export, the files are being lost in space in CS5. How to get the export to work in CS5 is what I am trying to accomplish and it is not happening. I tried updating HTML in Dreamweaver but I am doing something wrong in this process and all the help that I have read is not accomplishing the task.
Had some luck and just got an htm to transfer from fireworks to Dreamweaver. From what I read in your article that was provided, a CSS file and library should have exported too and did not. I am wondering if my defaults are setup wrong to acheive this. Am exploring a library export feature now.
Flash offers so many advantages that are not available in conventional programming but the SEO of flash needs to be pushed to work well in application. I do flash, only when I have to for elements. I have another AS3 class this term and may change my thinking on flash but I am just not pleased with the SEO output so wish to accomplish the affects with Fireworks that are similar to flash. Not a big fan of a lot of movement on a page so rather fits my preferences with this unique approach that I am trying to perfect. To each their own but if I can do standards compliant graphics with some of the work taken out by Fireworks, then my webpages are less time consuming than most.
lI wish to continue to perfect this aspect of my programming. As I gain experience and more knowledge, I think this aspect is going to allow me to do website designs that will be pleasing to the eye and accomplish a lot of curves that are a totally pain to do with conventional programming. Sorry to be different and probably totally ignorant in your view. I just see something that I can use this for in the future and wish to continue perfecting the technique.
I could teach you to spit into the wind, too. Would you want to perfect that technique?
Shortcuts that produce rigid layouts, fragile code and pages that do not render well in ALL browsers are not shortcuts. They are a waste of time. There is nothing to be gained from learning to work this way.
To reiterate what Murray already said, don't use graphics apps to generate your code. Use FW for images only. Use DW to build web pages.
Creating your first web site in DW CS5 -
Good luck with your project,
Good response. It's just tempting as all the CS5 tutorials show you doing that (good marketing etc...and don't blame them).. The round trip engineering potential as tempting, but as a coder I agree. It's like auto code generators from Class Diagrams to Java never work... managers love them, but developers don't cause they just don't work, and create obfuscated code.