12 Replies Latest reply: Aug 12, 2007 12:22 AM by JayNewWeb RSS

    Benefits of upgrading

    JayNewWeb Community Member
      I'm trying to decide whether to upgrade from DW MX 2004 to DW CS3 at this time, or focus on other things I'm learning right now.

      I have a small business and want to create some Flash presentations for marketing purposes.

      I don't have time for much of a learning curve.

      My overall proficiency level is that I use, at a rudimentary level only, Audition, InDesign, Photoshop Elements, and Dreamweaver. Of course I also use the main Office programs at a basic level.

      These two sites are examples of where my proficiency level is at:

      www.silver100.com

      www.silverfacts.com

      Also:

      www.silver100.com/Silver_100_two-sided_brochure_5-21-07.pdf

      So, now I want to add Flash with video, images, and text to our web pages.

      I have never so much as opened up a video editor or a Flash program before.

      I plan to use Adobe Premiere Elements 3 for the video -- I have a camcorder. (I will also check out Adobe Visual Communicator 3 beta.)

      I'm now trying to decide between Wildform and Blue Pacific for encoding the video to Flash and for doing the rest of my Flash work. (I greatly welcome advice between the two if I may please ask that here... I am, after all, a heavy Adobe software user.)

      I've been running DW MX 2004 for a few years, although, again, at a very rudimentary level. I don't plan to make the time to get any more proficient in web design that I already am (well, maybe just a tiny bit). But I wonder if I should go to DW CS3 anyway now that I plan to be adding Flash videos to our web pages.

      Is there much of a learning curve after upgrading?

      More importantly, will I see any meaningful improvements in the handling of the simple (progressive) Flash and Flash video I plan to put up?

      Or is it just as well for me to stay with MX 2004 for now -- and focus on just spending my learning time (and my money) on Premiere Elements and the third party Flash creation/encoding programs, which I'll be buying no matter what I decide regarding DW?

      Thanks.

      Jay


        • 1. Re: Benefits of upgrading
          Newsgroup_User Community Member
          JayNewWeb wrote:
          > I have a small business and want to create some Flash presentations
          > for marketing purposes.
          >
          > I don't have time for much of a learning curve.

          <snip>

          Do you want to run your business, or be a web developer?

          Given that you don't have time for a learning curve, find a developer who
          can help you with these requirements - you'll have something that looks more
          professional, and it will be delivered much more quickly than you can do it
          from scratch.

          Your time is not free - it still costs you, so put that investment into a
          consultant, and use your time more effectively to drive your business
          forward.

          HTH,

          Pete
          --
          Peter Connolly
          http://www.acutecomputing.co.uk
          UK


          • 2. Re: Benefits of upgrading
            SnakEyez02 CommunityMVP
            To be honest I don't know how many benefits you would see. There are some added features, and the scripts are improved to reduce security holes (referring to PHP, ASP, etc. here). The reference files are obviously updated as well, however, the IE 7 validator does not work as well as it could and really needs an update in my opinion but this is mostly because IE 7 and Vista are new technologies.

            Personally the other benefits that are being worked into DW have to do with the full version of Photoshop and other Adobe programs. I don't know if these features work with the Elements versions of their programs.

            If you are going to upgrade any program and assuming your programs are all MX 2004, I would upgrade Flash. To me that program had enough improvements with the interface and the Action Scripting that it makes this application more of a worthwhile upgrade than Dreamweaver.
            • 3. Re: Benefits of upgrading
              Newsgroup_User Community Member
              The benefits would accrue to you in direct proportion to how skilled you
              were as a developer/coder. If you have not got the time or the inclination
              to acquire either of these skills, then you would not get much benefit from
              the upgrade, really.

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              "SnakEyez02" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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              > To be honest I don't know how many benefits you would see. There are some
              > added features, and the scripts are improved to reduce security holes
              > (referring to PHP, ASP, etc. here). The reference files are obviously
              > updated
              > as well, however, the IE 7 validator does not work as well as it could and
              > really needs an update in my opinion but this is mostly because IE 7 and
              > Vista
              > are new technologies.
              >
              > Personally the other benefits that are being worked into DW have to do
              > with
              > the full version of Photoshop and other Adobe programs. I don't know if
              > these
              > features work with the Elements versions of their programs.
              >
              > If you are going to upgrade any program and assuming your programs are all
              > MX
              > 2004, I would upgrade Flash. To me that program had enough improvements
              > with
              > the interface and the Action Scripting that it makes this application more
              > of a
              > worthwhile upgrade than Dreamweaver.
              >


              • 4. Re: Benefits of upgrading
                Newsgroup_User Community Member
                Couple of things to consider:

                I think that if you do not upgrade now, with the next release
                you will be forced to repurchase. I believe you are only allowed
                to be 2 releases behind for upgrade (which you are now).

                If you want to do Flash but don't have time to learn it - don't
                do it! You might look into http://www.swishzone.com/index.php
                SwishMax has a much leaner learning curve. But of course to do
                anything well, you need practice and study.

                You don't really say which programs you already have and how
                they fit with the upgrade programs. As far as DWCS3 is concerned,
                I personally believe the upgrade is quite a let down. The only way
                Adobe could sell it as an upgrade was to dump Spry into it and IMHO
                Spry is a con job. It doesn't work well and it's bloated.

                I did the upgrade because the package I chose upgraded all my
                core programs (DW, FW, FL) and I got PS, Illustrator and professional
                Adobe. For me, it made the price worth while. But each person has to
                make that decision based on the packages offered and what they use.


                • 5. Re: Benefits of upgrading
                  Newsgroup_User Community Member
                  > As far as DWCS3 is concerned,
                  > I personally believe the upgrade is quite a let down.

                  You will find others here who strongly disagree with this sentiment. Me,
                  for example. I find the CSS improvements in rendering and management alone
                  to be worth the upgrade....

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                  "Katsuey" <katsuey@removeitkatsuey.com> wrote in message
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                  > Couple of things to consider:
                  >
                  > I think that if you do not upgrade now, with the next release
                  > you will be forced to repurchase. I believe you are only allowed
                  > to be 2 releases behind for upgrade (which you are now).
                  >
                  > If you want to do Flash but don't have time to learn it - don't
                  > do it! You might look into http://www.swishzone.com/index.php
                  > SwishMax has a much leaner learning curve. But of course to do
                  > anything well, you need practice and study.
                  >
                  > You don't really say which programs you already have and how
                  > they fit with the upgrade programs.The only way
                  > Adobe could sell it as an upgrade was to dump Spry into it and IMHO
                  > Spry is a con job. It doesn't work well and it's bloated.
                  >
                  > I did the upgrade because the package I chose upgraded all my
                  > core programs (DW, FW, FL) and I got PS, Illustrator and professional
                  > Adobe. For me, it made the price worth while. But each person has to
                  > make that decision based on the packages offered and what they use.
                  >


                  • 6. Re: Benefits of upgrading
                    Newsgroup_User Community Member
                    On 29 Jul 2007 in macromedia.dreamweaver, Katsuey wrote:

                    > I think that if you do not upgrade now, with the next release
                    > you will be forced to repurchase. I believe you are only allowed
                    > to be 2 releases behind for upgrade (which you are now).

                    Just For The Record: in this cycle, it is 3 releases. Owners of MX
                    (DW6.x et al) products are allowed to upgrade to CS3 at upgrade prices.
                    Note that this is not necessarily an indicator of future policy.

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                    • 7. Re: Benefits of upgrading
                      JayNewWeb Community Member
                      quote:

                      Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
                      Do you want to run your business, or be a web developer?

                      Given that you don't have time for a learning curve, find a developer who
                      can help you with these requirements - you'll have something that looks more
                      professional, and it will be delivered much more quickly than you can do it
                      from scratch.

                      Your time is not free - it still costs you, so put that investment into a
                      consultant, and use your time more effectively to drive your business
                      forward.

                      HTH,

                      Pete
                      --
                      Peter Connolly
                      http://www.acutecomputing.co.uk
                      UK





                      Pete,

                      Your comments really touch home. It's a very difficult choice. I pitch "one" potential investors every day or two by phone for about an hour or so. To do that on video, and to put some of our promotional stuff into video, still, and PPT type text, and them make all that available in Flash on our web site (public site for marketing, private site for potential investors only), I feel I'd drastically improve my ability to raise funding... which could then go to a web developer, marketing consultant, etc, etc. Obviously, there's a lot of learning time even for what I'm proposing when I say I want to keep it simple. But the time involved for me to know enough to even interact intelligently with experts -- coming in to shoot the video (lots of money, and I don't get to do it in segments as I see fit, or experiment, or modify easily, unless I'm doing it myself -- and I do NOT need anything fancy for the video), communicating on where to cut and splice, what stills to put where, what text... I don't know, it seems that IF there's a way to get a handle on those basics relatively quickly ("relatively" being a very subjective thing, of course), it's a skill I can use for quite a ways into my company's progress, until funding really allows me to let pros take over. Irony is that with luck it won't be long -- just when I start to know this stuff, I shouldn't need it any more! :-) But I’m hoping the learning curve puts me to where, within say a month or two (or three), I’ve substantially jumpstarted my company’s progress and it was worth it.

                      As an illustration of what I'm thinking, there's a new company in Silicon Valley that specializes in being an intermediary between startup entrepreneurs and angel investors, with their uniqueness being that they have the entrepreneurs submit not a business plan or an executive summary but rather a "video" of their pitch, which I'm sure is combined with some summary text -- and interested potential investors review the video before deciding whether to look further. Someone who is very experienced in Silicon Valley highly recommended this venue to me (and, of course, I thought “Well, why do I need to limit that to just their web site?”).

                      I just feel this is a medium whose time has come and it could be a very useful way for me to make my case in marketing and in raising money.

                      I still need to "find" potential investors, and still want this "video" presentation to remain confidential, but the time I spend doing the same "pitch" by phone over and over and over, often to only find it was wasted time, may make this learning curve worth it.

                      As another example, I'm training doctors now, who are starting to use our natural health product in their practices, and to do that on a conference call with access to my screen (with Acrobat Connect) is nice, but a Flash-based video/still/text training or two for them to access any time seems infinitely more useful... along with some phone calls.

                      And, for now I can also be showing potential investors the kind of promotional stuff I have in mind for when we can hire the pros

                      Again, though, the question is whether tis more efficient to do it myself "for now" or try to deal with the pros. Dealing with the pros just seems daunting at present, unless I find someone really good who is local and affordable and has time in their schedule. How much should I perhaps make a priority of looking for THAT? That's a serious question, not a rhetorical one.

                      Although, right now, today, I simply don’t have the cash to pay the pros to do anything right, and I’m hoping once I make it through a learning curve I can output stuff much faster than they probably would.

                      And yet, I worry a lot and deliberate a lot over exactly what you said. It’s a very tough call to make! I should be on the phone talking to potential investors… which I still have to do anyway… and letting a pro do my promotional Flash stuff... And yet…….

                      By the way, has anyone actually looked at Wildform yet? It may be more of a learning curve than I want, but it may be just the ticket. (Some forum members here may even find it a useful discovery for all I know.)

                      The question is vital to my business: "Is the learning curve acceptable and worth it?"

                      Oh, and as to my original question, I really appreciate the comments. I don't even know what CSS is, or "references." I think my main question was whether it's interface for, and execution of, the Flash/SWF files/players I want to insert is improved at all.

                      Thanks again!

                      Jay

                      • 8. Re: Benefits of upgrading
                        Newsgroup_User Community Member
                        Here's a truism in this field:

                        Sites made by beginners USUALLY look like sites made by beginners. Is that
                        what impression you want to base your investor impression on?

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                        "JayNewWeb" <jnewman@silver100.com> wrote in message
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                        >
                        quote:

                        Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
                        > Do you want to run your business, or be a web developer?
                        >
                        > Given that you don't have time for a learning curve, find a developer who
                        > can help you with these requirements - you'll have something that looks
                        > more
                        > professional, and it will be delivered much more quickly than you can do
                        > it
                        > from scratch.
                        >
                        > Your time is not free - it still costs you, so put that investment into a
                        > consultant, and use your time more effectively to drive your business
                        > forward.
                        >
                        > HTH,
                        >
                        > Pete
                        > --
                        > Peter Connolly
                        > http://www.acutecomputing.co.uk
                        > UK
                        >
                        >
                        >

                        >
                        > Pete,
                        >
                        > Your comments really touch home. It's a very difficult choice. I pitch
                        > "one"
                        > potential investors every day or two by phone for about an hour or so. To
                        > do
                        > that on video, and to put some of our promotional stuff into video, still,
                        > and
                        > PPT type text, and them make all that available in Flash on our web site
                        > (public site for marketing, private site for potential investors only), I
                        > feel
                        > I'd drastically improve my ability to raise funding... which could then go
                        > to a
                        > web developer, marketing consultant, etc, etc. Obviously, there's a lot of
                        > learning time even for what I'm proposing when I say I want to keep it
                        > simple.
                        > But the time involved for me to know enough to even interact intelligently
                        > with
                        > experts -- coming in to shoot the video (lots of money, and I don't get to
                        > do
                        > it in segments as I see fit, or experiment, or modify easily, unless I'm
                        > doing
                        > it myself -- and I do NOT need anything fancy for the video),
                        > communicating on
                        > where to cut and splice, what stills to put where, what text... I don't
                        > know,
                        > it seems that IF there's a way to get a handle on those basics relatively
                        > quickly ("relatively" being a very subjective thing, of course), it's a
                        > skill I
                        > can use for quite a ways into my company's progress, until funding really
                        > allows me to let pros take over. Irony is that with luck it won't be
                        > long --
                        > just when I start to know this stuff, I shouldn't need it any more! :-)
                        > But I?m
                        > hoping the learning curve puts me to where, within say a month or two (or
                        > three), I?ve substantially jumpstarted my company?s progress and it was
                        > worth
                        > it.
                        >
                        > As an illustration of what I'm thinking, there's a new company in Silicon
                        > Valley that specializes in being an intermediary between startup
                        > entrepreneurs
                        > and angel investors, with their uniqueness being that they have the
                        > entrepreneurs submit not a business plan or an executive summary but
                        > rather a
                        > "video" of their pitch, which I'm sure is combined with some summary
                        > text --
                        > and interested potential investors review the video before deciding
                        > whether to
                        > look further. Someone who is very experienced in Silicon Valley highly
                        > recommended this venue to me (and, of course, I thought ?Well, why do I
                        > need to
                        > limit that to just their web site??).
                        >
                        > I just feel this is a medium whose time has come and it could be a very
                        > useful
                        > way for me to make my case in marketing and in raising money.
                        >
                        > I still need to "find" potential investors, and still want this "video"
                        > presentation to remain confidential, but the time I spend doing the same
                        > "pitch" by phone over and over and over, often to only find it was wasted
                        > time,
                        > may make this learning curve worth it.
                        >
                        > As another example, I'm training doctors now, who are starting to use our
                        > natural health product in their practices, and to do that on a conference
                        > call
                        > with access to my screen (with Acrobat Connect) is nice, but a Flash-based
                        > video/still/text training or two for them to access any time seems
                        > infinitely
                        > more useful... along with some phone calls.
                        >
                        > And, for now I can also be showing potential investors the kind of
                        > promotional
                        > stuff I have in mind for when we can hire the pros
                        >
                        > Again, though, the question is whether tis more efficient to do it myself
                        > "for
                        > now" or try to deal with the pros. Dealing with the pros just seems
                        > daunting at
                        > present, unless I find someone really good who is local and affordable and
                        > has
                        > time in their schedule. How much should I perhaps make a priority of
                        > looking
                        > for THAT? That's a serious question, not a rhetorical one.
                        >
                        > Although, right now, today, I simply don?t have the cash to pay the pros
                        > to do
                        > anything right, and I?m hoping once I make it through a learning curve I
                        > can
                        > output stuff much faster than they probably would.
                        >
                        > And yet, I worry a lot and deliberate a lot over exactly what you said.
                        > It?s a very tough call to make! I should be on the phone talking to
                        > potential
                        > investors? which I still have to do anyway? and letting a pro do my
                        > promotional
                        > Flash stuff... And yet??.

                        >
                        > By the way, has anyone actually looked at https://www.wildform.com yet? It
                        > may
                        > be more of a learning curve than I want, but it may be just the ticket.
                        > (Some
                        > forum members here may even find it a useful discovery for all I know.)
                        >
                        > The question is vital to my business: "Is the learning curve acceptable
                        > and
                        > worth it?"

                        >
                        > Oh, and as to my original question, I really appreciate the comments. I
                        > don't
                        > even know what CSS is, or "references." I think my main question was
                        > whether
                        > it's interface for, and execution of, the Flash/SWF files/players I want
                        > to
                        > insert is improved at all.
                        >
                        > Thanks again!
                        >
                        > Jay
                        >
                        >
                        >


                        • 9. Benefits of upgrading
                          JayNewWeb Community Member
                          quote:

                          Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
                          Here's a truism in this field:

                          Sites made by beginners USUALLY look like sites made by beginners. Is that
                          what impression you want to base your investor impression on?

                          --
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                          You're absolutely right. The point is very well taken. So, I need to get a pro to take over ASAP. I wholeheartedly agree.

                          Until then, though, the question still remains as to whether my current path of trying to learn Wildform or Swish (or Blue Pacific if it's not just out of my league) is a good idea and, if so, which one to go with. I'm leaning towards the need to get "something" in video/still/text form on the web for promo and potential investors "yesterday" and can live with it not being all that fancy for the time being. Content will do it.

                          An example of what I have in mind is Microsoft's " Defy All Challenges" promotional video interviews to promote their visual Studio. See the short video interviews by clicking on any of the four categories. That and a few still images and some PPT-type text (wtih perhaps the most minimal of effects) and that's all I'm after for now... a simple way to see and play them on our web site, mixed in with the text that's on our site (then a similar version for potential investors on the hidden site), and I'm good for now.

                          So, if that's a good plan, and the learning curve is probably realistic, then my question is back to which program to be using (in addition to Premiere Elements for the basic video editing).

                          I just looked at the Swish web site again (thanks, Katsuey) and it's more than I had thought when I first looked at it last week. (When I first looked last week, the Samples for Video2 were all showing this very tacky-looking Swish player, and there's no way I'd want that. Now I see that the full SwishMax program offers quite a lot more.)

                          One reason I've liked the idea of Wildform is that they're in the US and I can call then on the phone. But I see Swish has quite an extensive web presence, forums, tutorials, etc. At this point, I have to go with whichever is a smaller learning curve for what I need and has the support there to get my questions answered quickly and reliably (without having to sift through ten tutorials).

                          Well, I realize this is lengthy posting for an opinion or two. I have a LOT at stake and really appreciate it! The time spent here will save me a huge about of time around the corner, so...

                          Opinions on my current options are enormously appreciated.

                          Thanks again!

                          • 10. Re: Benefits of upgrading
                            Newsgroup_User Community Member
                            Here's another truism for you. Home-made videos usually look like home-made
                            videos when published on the web, unless you have lots more equipment than I
                            think you might....

                            Would you cut corners like this on a printed brochure? Or a newspaper ad?

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                            "JayNewWeb" <jnewman@silver100.com> wrote in message
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                            >
                            quote:

                            Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
                            > Here's a truism in this field:
                            >
                            > Sites made by beginners USUALLY look like sites made by beginners. Is
                            > that
                            > what impression you want to base your investor impression on?
                            >
                            > --
                            > Murray --- ICQ 71997575
                            > Adobe Community Expert
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                            > You're absolutely right. The point is very well taken. So, I need to get a
                            > pro
                            > to take over ASAP. I wholeheartedly agree.
                            >
                            > Until then, though, the question still remains as to whether my current
                            > path
                            > of trying to learn http://wildform.com or http://swishzone.com (or
                            > http://blue-pac.com if it's not just out of my league) is a good idea and,
                            > if
                            > so, which one to go with. I'm leaning towards the need to get "something"
                            > in
                            > video/still/text form on the web for promo and potential investors
                            > "yesterday"
                            > and can live with it not being all that fancy for the time being. Content
                            > will
                            > do it.
                            >
                            > An example of what I have in mind is Microsoft's
                            > " http://www.defyallchallenges.com/" promotional video interviews to
                            > promote
                            > their visual Studio. See the short video interviews by clicking on any of
                            > the
                            > four categories. That and a few still images and some PPT-type text and
                            > that's
                            > all I'm after for now. I simple way to see and play them on our web site,
                            > mixed
                            > in with the text that's on our site (then a similar version for potential
                            > investors on the hidden site), and I'm good for now.
                            >
                            > So, if that's a good plan, and the learning curve is probably realistic,
                            > then
                            > my question is back to which program to be using (in addition to Premiere
                            > Elements for the basic video editing).
                            >
                            > I just looked at the Swish web site again (thanks, Katsuey) and it's more
                            > than
                            > I had thought when I first looked at it last week. (When I first looked
                            > last
                            > week, the Samples for Video2 were all showing this very tacky-looking
                            > Swish
                            > player, and there's no way I'd want that. Now I see that the full SwishMax
                            > program offers quite a lot more.)
                            >
                            > One reason I've liked the idea of Wildform is that they're in the US and I
                            > can
                            > call then on the phone. But I see Swish has quite an extensive web
                            > presence,
                            > forums, tutorials, etc. At this point, I have to go with whichever is a
                            > smaller
                            > learning curve for what I need and has the support there to get my
                            > questions
                            > answered quickly and reliably (without having to sift through ten
                            > tutorials).
                            >
                            > Well, I realize this is lengthy posting for an opinion or two. I have a
                            > LOT at
                            > stake and really appreciate it! The time spent here will save me a huge
                            > about
                            > of time around the corner, so...
                            >
                            > Opinions on my current options are enormously appreciated.
                            >
                            > Thanks again!
                            >
                            >
                            >


                            • 11. Re: Benefits of upgrading
                              Newsgroup_User Community Member
                              > You will find others here who strongly disagree with this sentiment. Me,
                              > for example. I find the CSS improvements in rendering and management
                              > alone to be worth the upgrade....

                              This is why I carefully caged my response as my opinion.
                              I personally believe the CSS improvements were bug fixes promised
                              in Studio 8 that didn't quite make it. I don't think bug fixes should
                              be done at upgrade prices.


                              • 12. Benefits of upgrading
                                JayNewWeb Community Member
                                This thread warrants this update:

                                It turns out there IS a specific benefit to upgrading from DW MX 2004 to DW CS3 for putting Flash video on the web.

                                See this thread for the details of the benefit (I suspect there are others as well).