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1. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
Colin Brougham Oct 15, 2010 1:04 PM (in response to Franksvideo)You didn't specify whether you're using Windows or Mac OS, but they won't playback in Windows QT Player natively, and I don't think they'll play on a Mac unless you have FCP installed. They will import and playback in Premiere, however--or at least they should. I'm looking at one right now. Are you updated to Premiere Pro 5.0.2?
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2. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
JSS1138 Oct 15, 2010 10:52 PM (in response to Franksvideo)Where do I get the codecs for JVCs Quicktime format files.
For playback, VLC 1.1.4 should handle them. However, I don't believe you will ever get them into Premiere for editing. Those files are designed specifically for Final Cut Pro. It's best not to shoot using that format.
(P.S. I've had to deal with those files. If you do somehow find a way, please post back.)
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3. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
davidbeisner2010 Oct 20, 2010 10:06 AM (in response to JSS1138)So are you implying that Adobe won't support stuff shot on the new GY-HM100 and 700 cameras that shoot to QT files? I'm looking at upgrading my primary camera to the HM700, and was under the impression that it would work great in PPro CS5 using the XDCAM sequence settings. Am I going to end up having to transcode all my files before using them in Premiere if I shoot with one of those cameras??
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4. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
JSS1138 Oct 20, 2010 11:25 AM (in response to davidbeisner2010)I believe those cameras will shoot in normal formats. The FCP format is because FCP is behind the technology curve and requires Log & Transfer for many formats, whereas Premiere edits them natively. Camera makers added the FCP recording format as a way to bypass the Log & Transfer step. If you're not using FCP, there's no need to record using that format. Just shoot in standard formats.
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5. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
Colin Brougham Oct 20, 2010 11:39 AM (in response to davidbeisner2010)The QuickTime files work fine in Premiere (at least from an HM700), and in fact, if you need to cross-platform between a PC and a Mac, the QuickTimes will probably be your better choice. However, if you're only working on a PC, use the MP4 container. That way you can view the files in both Premiere and elsewhere on the desktop--even Windows Media Player will play those back on Windows 7. The MOVs, however, would require something like Calibrated XD Decoder to play back in QT Player on a PC--Jim says VLC will play them but I don't/won't use VLC so I can't confirm.
Here's the properties from a 720p24 QuickTime from the HM700:
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6. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
davidbeisner2010 Oct 20, 2010 1:01 PM (in response to Colin Brougham)Thanks guys... I didn't realize you could set different formats to record in on the JVC... I thought it was either the qt as native or you could purchase it with the SxS module and record SxS as well. So I can set the mp4 container from within the camera menu then? That's nice...
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7. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
Colin Brougham Oct 20, 2010 1:26 PM (in response to davidbeisner2010)So I can set the mp4 container from within the camera menu then? That's nice...
That's my understanding. I don't have one of the cameras--just the footage--but that's generally how the JVC stuff works.
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8. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
JSS1138 Oct 20, 2010 1:29 PM (in response to Colin Brougham)Hey Colin,
Any chance of a Gspot screen cap for that same file?
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9. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
Colin Brougham Oct 20, 2010 1:37 PM (in response to JSS1138)I'll do you one better: here's the Gspot profile and the Mediainfo profile:
Here's the text of the Mediainfo report:
General
Complete name : E:\_COMMON_\Test Footage\HM700\DASH0095_01_720p24.MOV
Format : MPEG-4
Format_Commercial_IfAny : XDCAM EX 35
Format profile : QuickTime
Codec ID : qt
File size : 47.0 MiB
Duration : 11s 668ms
Overall bit rate : 33.8 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2009-03-22 22:25:05
Tagged date : UTC 2009-03-22 22:25:05
©TSC : 23976
©TSZ : 1000
Video
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Video
Format_Commercial_IfAny : XDCAM EX 35
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@High
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12
Codec ID : xdv4
Codec ID/Hint : XDCAM
Duration : 11s 668ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 35.0 Mbps
Width : 1 248 pixels
Original width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 702 pixels
Original height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.666
Stream size : 44.8 MiB (95%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2009-03-22 22:25:05
Tagged date : UTC 2009-03-22 22:25:05
Audio
ID : 2
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : twos
Duration : 11s 11ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 2.02 MiB (4%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2009-03-22 22:25:05
Tagged date : UTC 2009-03-22 22:25:05
Menu
ID : 3
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2009-03-22 22:25:05
Tagged date : UTC 2009-03-22 22:25:05
Bit rate mode : CBR -
10. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
JSS1138 Oct 20, 2010 4:39 PM (in response to Colin Brougham)My mistake. These are NOT the files I thought they were.
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11. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
Colin Brougham Oct 20, 2010 5:01 PM (in response to JSS1138)Out of curiosity, what did you think they were?
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12. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
JSS1138 Oct 20, 2010 8:49 PM (in response to Colin Brougham)I can't recall the exact codec.
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13. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
Colin Brougham Oct 20, 2010 8:54 PM (in response to JSS1138)AIC (Apple Intermediate Codec), perhaps? That's Apple's craptastic HDV intermediate codec that is available in iMovie and optionally in FCP. If that's the one you're thinking of, there is no-way-no-how to get these decoded on a Windows machine. I've gotten them before and it always involves taking them to someone with a Mac and transcoding them there to something more platform-agnostic.
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14. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
JSS1138 Oct 21, 2010 12:35 PM (in response to Colin Brougham)No, it wasn't that.
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15. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
Kevin Schuster Jul 13, 2011 7:33 AM (in response to Colin Brougham)Hey Colin,
I'm having issues importing footage. I'm using CS4 on Windows Vista. Do you know if there was a change from CS4 to CS5 to allow for the import? Or is something funky with my version right now.
Any chance you know where I can get the xvd4 codec?
Kevin
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16. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
Bill Hunt Jul 13, 2011 8:11 AM (in response to Kevin Schuster)Kevin,
Are the files that you are having an issue with, Xvid?
If not, what are their complete specs.? Above, you can see how Colin used both G-Spot and MediaInfo to give the complete details of the files in the beginning of the thread. If you do the same, then someone can likely help you with your particular files. Hoping that they are NOT using the Xvid CODEC.
Good luck,
Hunt
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17. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
Colin Brougham Jul 13, 2011 8:22 AM (in response to Kevin Schuster)Any chance you know where I can get the xvd4 codec?
Do you mean 'xdv4'? Makes a difference...
Calibrated{Q} XD Decode will let you open these (or should, anyway), but it's not free. I might have a free solution for you, though--don't have time to test and type it up right now. If you can wait, I'll fix yer wagon
In the meantime, can you post a MediaInfo report?
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18. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
Kevin Schuster Jul 13, 2011 8:34 AM (in response to Colin Brougham)Sorry about that ... had issues getting everything for you.
File Format: .mov
Picture for you:
Full read out:
General
Complete name : I:\Video Files\ICrave Freedom\2011 July Footage\Corey\Right\First\Good Shots\831_0892_01.MOV
Format : MPEG-4
Format_Commercial_IfAny : XDCAM EX 35
Format profile : QuickTime
Codec ID : qt
File size : 123 MiB
Duration : 29s 29ms
Overall bit rate : 35.6 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2011-07-08 16:06:08
Tagged date : UTC 2011-07-13 14:12:59
Video
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Video
Format_Commercial_IfAny : XDCAM EX 35
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@High
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12
Codec ID : xdv4
Codec ID/Hint : XDCAM
Duration : 29s 29ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 34.0 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 35.0 Mbps
Width : 1 248 pixels
Original width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 702 pixels
Original height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.619
Stream size : 118 MiB (96%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2011-07-08 16:06:08
Tagged date : UTC 2011-07-08 16:06:08
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19. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
Colin Brougham Jul 13, 2011 8:42 AM (in response to Kevin Schuster)Yep, can fix. However, since you're on CS4, start a thread over there and I'll put the details in it. This issue is really separate from the original one posted in this thread.
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20. Re: JVC's qiucktime file in Premiere Pro CS5
Kevin Schuster Jul 13, 2011 8:43 AM (in response to Colin Brougham)







