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1. Re: Capture from HDV tape as QT or non MPEG-2
Harm Millaard Oct 25, 2010 1:30 PM (in response to zm15)No. Capture is a simple transfer of data.
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2. Re: Capture from HDV tape as QT or non MPEG-2
zm15 Oct 25, 2010 1:48 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Why is it possible to capture in different formats then from Final Cut if it's just a simple transfer of data? Why can't I change the wrapper of the file that's captured in premiere?
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3. Re: Capture from HDV tape as QT or non MPEG-2
Kevin-Monahan Oct 25, 2010 2:20 PM (in response to zm15)In FCP you can only capture as MPEG-2 (HDV) or as ProRes natively. Native capture of ProRes via FireWire is proprietary to FCP. If you have a capture card you could capture to a different format.
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4. Re: Capture from HDV tape as QT or non MPEG-2
Harm Millaard Oct 25, 2010 2:20 PM (in response to zm15)Do you know the difference between driving and sailing?
Do you know the difference between capturing and ingesting?
Capture is a simple transfer of data, ingesting means importing and doing something to the imported material, like FCP does, it translates from the native format to an intermediate format like ProRes. Luckily PR does not do that. If you want to use an intermediate format, use FCP, but it will never improve the result, because every conversion (from native to something else) costs quality.
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5. Re: Capture from HDV tape as QT or non MPEG-2
zm15 Oct 25, 2010 2:23 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Ahh i see, thanks Harm.
I don't use a capture card so everything comes in via the firewire attached to the iMac.
So basically, always capture and ingest in the native format for best results?
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6. Re: Capture from HDV tape as QT or non MPEG-2
SFL46 Oct 25, 2010 2:37 PM (in response to zm15)"I was thinking pro res 422, or another quicktime format. Anything but mpeg-2 as it is a GOP format."
What you may not be recognizing in your thinking is that the HDV format on tape is already MPEG-2 and a GOP format. You don't recover the missing "pictures" during conversion to another format--that image data was thrown away in the camera.
Even if the camera had composite video out and you ran it into Premiere through a capture card, that image data are gone.
Taking away the wrapper doesn't give you an uncompressed video file.
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7. Re: Capture from HDV tape as QT or non MPEG-2
zm15 Oct 25, 2010 2:42 PM (in response to SFL46)This makes sense. Look at the original footage and how it is recorded with the camera, and decide from there how to ingest it.
Thanks for the help!
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8. Re: Capture from HDV tape as QT or non MPEG-2
JaysonM-Y Oct 25, 2010 5:17 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Harm Millaard wrote:
.... every conversion (from native to something else) costs quality.
I have to disagree there Harm, but then again, nobody in their right mind would try to work with DV in a "lossless" codec.
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9. Re: Capture from HDV tape as QT or non MPEG-2
JSS1138 Oct 25, 2010 7:26 PM (in response to JaysonM-Y)nobody in their right mind would try to work with DV in a "lossless" codec.
I do. I use Lagarith to convert my DV originals to 24p widescreen. I'd agree I'm not gaining anything, but at least I'm not losing any more with another level of DV compression.
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10. Re: Capture from HDV tape as QT or non MPEG-2
JaysonM-Y Oct 25, 2010 7:33 PM (in response to JSS1138)JSS1138 wrote:
I do
For archiving or work purpose? Now that I think about it, there are times when converting to a lossless would be beneficial.
also, i realize that quoting your name shows up as JSS1138.... those persistent login issues I bet...
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11. Re: Capture from HDV tape as QT or non MPEG-2
JSS1138 Oct 26, 2010 9:17 AM (in response to JaysonM-Y)I only archive the original tapes. The Lags files are for editing.





