6 Replies Latest reply on Oct 29, 2010 4:35 PM by FluxAeon

    After Effects CS5  Ram, Codecs and Graphic card

    FluxAeon

      hi im using AF CS5  with all latest updates. I have few questions

       

      i have problem with codecs included in CS5. could please someone tell me why when i try to "render  que" and i tried every possible codec included in AF cs5 the output is rubbish like hell. i been reading googling etc some on Adobe forums, some people say use 32bit instead 8bit, other say use this codec instead that one another say maybe maybe hmmm maybe .../.. let me think ahhh this codec isnt supported in AF cs5 yet it will be in next 2025 release.

       

      could please someone tell me what codec should i use to make output look like standard video instead crappy sh**t?

       

      ram preview work great no problems when i save on my desktop ram preview, it use auto  AVI WRAW (1gb/min)  and the video look great im satisfied.

       

      when i checked add to render que codecs under avi, wraw isnt included so i cant use it but why the hell ram preview use this codec?

       

      when i use quick time mpeg avi etc codecs included in cs5 the output look like i dont even know how to describe it look very bad. i tried also encode the shi**y output trough media encoder tried h264 etc tried to use other third party software to correct AF bad output and nothing helped and im tired.!!!!!

       

      how can Adobe sale something crapp that doesnt work ?!!!

       

      where is WRAW ?

       

      what codec should i use to make my 2 min clip look good ?

       

       

      another thing i got with AF thing called media encoder could please someone tell me why the hell i cant encode AVI movie in it ??? and then make out of it FLV or MPEG etc ?

      the result after making out of avi flv or mpeag etc  is that the sound disappear probably everyone in Adobe know it. could you please sort it out ?!!!!

       

       

      why when i use free encoding software such as mediacoder etc no problem with AVI decoding encoding etc?

       

       


      Another Question i have 4x ATI HD4850 installed so i would like to use it right ?? why? cuz everyone on earth know that normally graphic cards are designed for graphics.. not when you use Adobe products. Adobe preffer to make people buy 280gb of ram and 20 x Q9000 quad core.

       

      why the f***K open GL After Effects doesnt work ???? just dont ask me what opengl ver do i have !!!! when i use open gl the rendering is slower with Gpu than than using the CPU whys that? why it isnt in MAYA ??? etc

       

      people buy product people expect it to work right ?not install it then install all plugins you need, then try try and try to make AF work. AF remaind me Linux  still use it sometimes, when you install ubuntu you need a bit of time to make your graphic card work sound etc many of your devices wont never work cuz they arent supported no drivers or buggy drivers. the thing about linux is that it is free.


      Adobe cost money so people expect it to work i dont have time to wait or try to make it work for the next 5 years !!!!!

        • 1. Re: After Effects CS5  Ram, Codecs and Graphic card
          FluxAeon Level 1

          Ok bad codecs Are sorted out at least.

           

          i completelly reinstalled AF and it helped !! Now i can render normally i dont know what the issue was but it is working now it made me a bit happy cuz i lost whole night looking for the issue. funny thing cuz before i reinstalled AF. when i tried to render the rendering was very slow 3min clip on q9000 and quicktime codec took 2 hours and the out put was not useable. now i can render the same clip in about 3mi.

           

          thats one issue and it is sorted out.  maybe someone could tell something about opengl and ATI card and also about media encoder and avi clips movies (no sound after convertion to mpeg flv etc)

          • 2. Re: After Effects CS5  Ram, Codecs and Graphic card
            shooternz Level 6

            Glad you are feeling better now.

             

            Didnt notice any apology to Adobe though..

             

             

            • 3. Re: After Effects CS5  Ram, Codecs and Graphic card
              FluxAeon Level 1

              shooternz Appology? i had to reinstall AF to make it work. it wasnt my fault.and there was nothing in any instruction about  if any problems please reinstall your product. second if you had to render using AVI Wraw, there is no option only ram preview use Wraw.

               

              i asked another question about Adobe Media Encoder why the hell i cant convert 600mb AVI to MPEG or flv etc? everytime i do that the sound go away no matter what sound codec i use, i believe it is known issue.

               

              why OpenGl doesnt work with ATI cards ? no rendering no ram preview. ram preview doesnt use GPU at all and when i render and use GPU to support CPU what happen is the rendering is very very slow the GPU is loaded only  at 0 to 2% max.

              • 4. Re: After Effects CS5  Ram, Codecs and Graphic card
                canoli99 Level 1

                If you're looking for help this is a great place to be. Just maybe dial back the "adobe sucks" rhetoric a bit. The folks here are  extremely helpful but I think they're all volunteering their time so try to keep that in mind. Nothing wrong with complaining and/or suggesting improvements. Just try to respect the process and be patient. If you ask one or two specific questions (i know you did re: sound in .avi files) you'll get help faster.

                 

                wish I knew why OpenGL for rendering was still so bad. I was told long time ago "just don't use it for rendering" and I've followed that advice ever since. Maybe someday it'll be useful. Meanwhile it works great for everything else inside AE so I don't condemn the whole idea of OpenGL in Adobe products. Every CS release supports it more and more...they'll get there. For now just don't use it for rendering and you'll be fine.

                 

                At least you're using CS5 and can take advantage of all your RAM. just think, a few short years ago...

                 

                Sorry I can't help you with your missing audio in .avi. I generally render to QT or an img sequence and then layer my audio on top of that.

                 

                If you find an answer post back - I'm sure it will help someone else.

                 

                Good luck!

                -Richard "canoli99"

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                • 5. Re: After Effects CS5  Ram, Codecs and Graphic card
                  bogiesan-gyyClL Level 3

                  > {hats one issue and it is sorted out.  maybe someone could tell something about opengl and ATI card and also about media encoder and avi clips movies (no sound after convertion to mpeg flv etc) <

                   

                  Glad you got the codecs sorted out because I can't help you at all with PC stuff. You're on a PC, right? I run a stable of Macs at my shop. Tons of CS4 and CS5 installs on top of Apple's Final Cut Pro sutie, too.

                  Your Adobe Media Encoder question should be posted over on the AME forum. I use that product often on my Macintosh and have no such missing audio issues.

                   

                  bogiesan

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                  • 6. Re: After Effects CS5  Ram, Codecs and Graphic card
                    FluxAeon Level 1

                    canoli moment when i will be able to use 100% of my GPU power i will say it loud  Adobe is the greatest company in the world !!!!!!

                     

                     

                     

                    Ok guys Adobe doesnt suck not totally only little,  shame AF doesnt work perfect. maybe one  day it will happen instead using cpu for graphics AF will be able to use  Gpu cuz it is a way faster.

                     

                    and yeah i use PC the media  encoder avi sound issue im sure everyone know that after converting  from avi to mpeg flv etc the sound disapear and it doesnt if you do the same  thing using for example mediacoder which is free. but we can forget about it cuz i dont use media encoder much so it isnt real issue the only bad thing was that i couldnt render. whole night been trying to find out what the issue was and i couldnt find it thats why i was a bit angry. foregt it.

                     

                    just forget this whole issue

                     

                    and sorry for my anger