16 Replies Latest reply: Nov 9, 2010 9:15 AM by TerryLn22 RSS

    Floating pictures in CS4

    TerryLn22 Community Member

      I hate CS4 with a passion. When I had regular CS, I could open my images, they'd all float without me having to tell the software to do so. Who would want to be able only to view what, 6 or 8 images at a time in the tab type of view, before having to go to a drop down list to see other photo numbers and not even the photos, to jump to another photos? Either I'm using the non-floating view wrong, or it's a retarded feature.

       

      To make matters worse, when you are floating all the images, they're all shown on my screen about the size of a 5x7 (even though the file size is 8x10 or whatever). If you dare to maximize an image to full screen, it covers up all your tool choices (file, edit, view, filters, etc.). How stupid is that????? You can only drag the edges of the image to make it bigger for each and every picture, then it often times wants to go back to that stupid tab view as it attaches to another photo. Very, very annoying.

       

      Is there any way to simply maximinze the image (I'm talking about the choice in the upper right hand of all images, the "_ O X", with the minimize, maximize, or X to close), and still have your file, edit, view, select, filters, etc. options? I don't think there's a way to do it.

        • 1. Re: Floating pictures in CS4
          Rodieck Community Member

          Ctrl-0 ? I'm not quite sure I understand your problem, but Ctrl-0 might be what you're looking for.  Of course, it won't maximize that picture to full screen, since you don't want to cover up the tools, etc., but it will maximize it to be as big as possible.

          • 2. Re: Control O
            TerryLn22 Community Member

            No, I didn't mean control O.  On the upper right box of every window

            to close a program, or at the upper right of every picture, are 3 choices, the middle one being a square box. I couldn't type a square

            box, so I put in the next closest thing, an O.

             

            _  = minimize

             

            O (the square box) = maximize

             

            X = close

            • 3. Re: Floating pictures in CS4
              dec9 Community Member

              To max a picture PS CS4 does just that. It takes up the screen. Also PS CS5 is the same way too.

               

              Edit. You can also turn off the tab view too so it won't lock back up as a tab at the top. Everything will float.

              • 4. Re: What versions DON'T do that?
                TerryLn22 Community Member

                CS2? 3?

                • 5. Re: What versions DON'T do that?
                  JJMack Community Member

                  In CS4 and CS5 just use menu Edit>Preference get to the Interface page and un-check two check boxes.

                   

                  Open Documents in Tabs

                   

                  Enable Floating Document Window Docking

                   

                  When you un-check  the above two preferences when you open documents in Photoshop they will be in Floading windows and they will not pop into tabs when you move the near the option bar.

                  • 6. Re: What versions DON'T do that?
                    TerryLn22 Community Member

                    But can you maximize photos without them covering up 80% of your tools, like the file, edit, filters, etc.?

                    • 7. Re: What versions DON'T do that?
                      Noel Carboni Community Member

                      Try this:

                       

                      Ensure that Photoshop's main window is shown in Windowed mode (i.e., restored, not maximized/full-screen).

                       

                      Make Photoshop's main window smaller in width than the full screen, but nearly the full height.  Make the left edge near the left edge of the screen as well.

                       

                      Undock the panels you like to use and drag them into the space outside Photoshop's main window (i.e., over to the open desktop area).

                       

                      You can attach multiple panels together by dragging them edge to edge.  Sometimes you have to be very careful to do this.

                       

                      Done this way, choosing "Fit on Screen" will fit the window inside Photoshop's main window.

                       

                      This is a good way to use multiple monitors (with extended desktop) with Photoshop as well.

                       

                      -Noel

                      • 8. Re: What versions DON'T do that?
                        Rodieck Community Member

                        Jeff, I'm afraid I still don't understand exactly what you are looking for.  I did understand what you meant by "_ O X" and I did understand that that is not what you want.  But if there were a magic button that did exactly what you'd want, what would that be?  If you use Ctrl-0 (that's zero, not oh) on your selected picture, what does that give you that you don't want, or what doesn't it give you that you do want?

                        • 9. Re: What versions DON'T do that?
                          TerryLn22 Community Member

                          There is no such thing as Control 0.

                           

                          What I want to do, is hit the square in the _ O  X (the O is actually a square)  and the square should maximize the image, without covering up your commands at the top of your screen, like File, Edit, View, Filters, or whatever it is they say.

                           

                          As it stands now, maximizing the image, covers all that up. So if you want to open an existing file, or apply a filter, you have to shrink your image down, just to see those choices. That's totally retarded.

                          • 10. Re: What versions DON'T do that?
                            JJMack Community Member

                            Ctrl/Command+0 is the shortcut for menu View Fit Image on screen which leaves the image window floating may cover some stuff by floating on top they can be  brought forward.  If you want to use View>Screen Mode>either Full screen mode or use the Maximize icon in the image window which in CS4/CS5 is now  also fullsceen mode.  Adobe removed from its GUI the old menu View>Screen Mode>Maximize which just maximized into the current main Photoshop window as did the maximize icon. This broke many of my actions I had to adapt them to use Full screen mode with menu.  The only way you can do what you want is to add a second display that you can move your pallets to.

                            • 11. Re: What versions DON'T do that?
                              Noel Carboni Community Member

                              You have been given the ways to do what you want.  Maximize Window (the button to which you refer) does just that - maximizes the window to cover the screen.  Not yet mentioned (unless I missed it) are the buttons at the top of Photoshop's main window to switch to tabbed view and do good things with multiple documents, such as tile them.

                               

                              Many people get two or more monitors simply because it's very powerful to have many things on the screen at once with Photoshop, and they like to have one entire screen for editing.  I use two for that reason.

                               

                              Also, folks used to using Windowed view often initially hate Tabbed view, but try it for a while.  It really does grow on you and it offers some advantages.  As a Photoshop user since the start I never thought I'd switch, but now I prefer Tabbed view.

                               

                              -Noel

                              • 12. Re: What versions DON'T do that?
                                Noel Carboni Community Member

                                By the way, if you undock your panels, as I mentioned above, you will find maximizing the document window actually doesn't cover up the panels.  They stay on top.

                                 

                                You seem to have a bit of a negative response that Photoshop won't do exactly what you want, but in fact I don't think you fully understand all it can do.  Finding a way to work effectively with it takes time, and I'm confident you'll find a way that suits you.  Everyone does.

                                 

                                -Noel

                                • 13. Re: What versions DON'T do that?
                                  Rodieck Community Member

                                  jeff bach wrote:

                                   

                                  There is no such thing as Control 0.

                                   

                                   

                                  Jeff, I am at a loss when you say there is no such thing as control zero.  Hold down the Ctrl key and then press the zero key.

                                   

                                  What I want to do, is hit the square in the _ O  X (the O is actually a square)  and the square should maximize the image, without covering up your commands at the top of your screen, like File, Edit, View, Filters, or whatever it is they say.

                                   

                                  That may be what you want it to do but it obviously doesn't work the way you want it to.  Time to give that up and try something different.  You can complain about it's being retarded (in your opinion) or you can get some work done.

                                  • 14. Re: What versions DON'T do that?
                                    TerryLn22 Community Member

                                    Forget the Control O. That's not what I'm talking about. You understand what I am talking about though, right? The _ O X, the O being the square choice (which I cannot type a square), which maximizes the image, covering up the file, edit, view, filters, etc. You understand that, correct?

                                     

                                    Not complaining about it, and getting work done, IS the problem. If I want to view my images larger, I have to drag the edges of each and every painful image to see them larger than a 5x7 on my screen. In CS, I would simply hit maximize, then use the navigator to enlarge them and see it full screen (without covering up edit, file, view, filters, and other tools I need). In CS4, you hit maximize, and it covers everything up, including your navigator. How can you get any work done, if all your tools are covered up?

                                    • 15. Re: What versions DON'T do that?
                                      JJMack Community Member

                                      Noel Carboni wrote:

                                       

                                      You seem to have a bit of a negative response that Photoshop won't do exactly what you want, but in fact I don't think you fully understand all it can do.  Finding a way to work effectively with it takes time, and I'm confident you'll find a way that suits you.  Everyone does.

                                       

                                       

                                      Noel

                                      I feel his pain he had a way that work well for him and Adobe took it away. Yes Adobe owns Photoshop and most of the changes they make are for the better. Still some changes they make I feel cause more pain then they are worth particularly when the change doesn't seems to have real benefit. When Adobe removes menu items from their graphical user interface they break all user actions that inserted that menu item.  When they change the behavior of an icon in a image window user will think Photoshop is broken instead of knowing what they are seeing is a Photoshop behavior change.  I feel Adobe does not do a good job with regression testing changes they make break users actions and frustrate users.  That warrants a bit of nagitivity IMO.

                                       

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                                      Why ??? Most likely related to tabbed editing Adobe did not know haw to handle no tabs.

                                      • 16. Re: What versions DON'T do that?
                                        TerryLn22 Community Member

                                        If "Full Screen Mode" makes it do what I want it to do, great. I have yet to try that.

                                         

                                        All I want to do, is view my images full screen, and still have access to my tools, nothing more. It's stupid to have it cover up your tools.