7 Replies Latest reply on Nov 14, 2010 8:13 PM by Todd_Kopriva

    Cap render file size?

    johniac

      Does anyone know of a way to set a target or max file size for a Quicktime render in CS5?

        • 1. Re: Cap render file size?
          Todd_Kopriva Level 8

          What codec are you using within your QuickTime movies?

           

          I don't know of any way to directly set a target file size for QuickTime movies, but it can be done with other file types. Essentially, you take target size and divide it by the duration of the movie to get a target bit rate. This works for several formats.

           

          Are you asking because you need a very specific file size, or are you asking because you don't like the fact that your output files are huge? If the latter, perhaps reading this page will help to explain some things.

          • 2. Re: Cap render file size?
            johniac Level 1

            I'm using the animation codec and trying to get it under the 2Gb Vimeo upload limit. I tried lowering the quality and dimensions of the video which resulted in a 300Mb increase in file size. Strange results.

            • 3. Re: Cap render file size?
              johniac Level 1

              What values would be used for target size & duration? bytes & seconds?

              • 4. Re: Cap render file size?
                Todd_Kopriva Level 8

                > I'm using the animation codec

                 

                 

                There's your problem. I'll ask you again to read this page.

                 

                The Animation codec is not (repeat, _NOT_) intended for playback or distribution. It is intended as an intermediate codec, to be used for movies that are passing from one piece of post-production software to another---such as from After Effects into a nonlinear editor. The Animation codec loses no image data, but it also doesn't compress very much.

                 

                For playback and distribution, you want to use a codec that does much more compression. A common example these days is H.264, often in an F4V container. The H.264 codec does lose some image data, but that is normal for a codec that shrinks files by such a large amount.

                 

                Here's some more information about the F4V format and H.264 codec.

                • 5. Re: Cap render file size?
                  johniac Level 1

                  Yes, which is why I'm using it as an intermediate step before the Vimeo upload & compression. I'm trying to start with something as high quality as possible before Vimeo encodes it to H.264 but staying under the upload size limit.

                   

                  Compressing it too much before uploading results in a crappy end result.

                   

                  Is there another codec that gives similar results to animation that I would be able to calculate the output file size with?

                  • 6. Re: Cap render file size?
                    Todd_Kopriva Level 8

                    > I'm trying to start with something as high quality as possible before Vimeo encodes it to H.264 but staying under the upload size limit.

                     

                     

                    If you give Vimeo a properly encoded H.264 movie, it doesn't re-compress it. Why not just do that? They have their specifications on their website.

                     

                    But, if you insist on doing it the way that you're trying to, then try using the PNG video codec in a QuickTime container. At the highest quality setting, it is also lossless, but it takes up half the space as the Animation codec for a typical video. (Animation is more efficient for areas of flat color, like cartoons.)

                     

                    You can also create a master using After Effects, using a lossless codec like one of those mentioned above, and then you can experiment with Adobe Media Encoder to compress to all sorts of different formats, with all sorts of different settings. There's no reason to re-render your After Effects composition just to experiment with encoding settings.

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                    • 7. Re: Cap render file size?
                      johniac Level 1

                      Great thanks.