8 Replies Latest reply on Dec 5, 2010 6:20 AM by Steve Grisetti

    APE 9 Demo


      Installed, and seems to produce quality output, however the view of the imported files is jumpy. Audio is fine, video is not. Like I said, the saved files seem ok, but editing is challenging.


      Shut down everything I could think of, but still seems to lag.


      Vista 64 sp2 (tuned off super fetch, caching, indexing, etc.)

      2.5 ghz dual core

      4 gig ram

      plenty of free disk space

      nvidia GeForce 7100/nForce 630i native

        • 1. Re: APE 9 Demo
          the_wine_snob Level 9

          Welcome to the forum.


          What are the full specs. of the source files, and also your Project Preset, established when you do New Project?


          Also, for some media, there are elements that are not in the trial, but are included and activated with the full-paid version.


          Good luck,



          • 2. Re: APE 9 Demo
            neophema1@gmail.com Level 1

            Ok, here goes!


            Not sure how to glean presets - a New project is listed as:


            "NTSC-AVCHD_AVCHD LITE 720p60" 


            APE9 did asked me if I wanted to match the "project settings" to the file type, and I selected "yes".


            Does this help?



            Complete name                    : C:\Videos\100VIDEO\HDV_0024.MP4

            Format                           : MPEG-4

            Format profile                   : JVT

            Codec ID                         : avc1

            File size                        : 1.54 GiB

            Duration                         : 35mn 51s

            Overall bit rate                 : 6 138 Kbps

            Writing library                  : SEC

            @sec                             : UNG                       


            ID                               : 1

            Format                           : AVC

            Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec

            Format profile                   : Main@L4.2

            Format settings, CABAC           : Yes

            Format settings, ReFrames        : 4 frames

            Format settings, GOP             : M=3, N=15

            Codec ID                         : avc1

            Codec ID/Info                    : Advanced Video Coding

            Duration                         : 35mn 51s

            Bit rate mode                    : Variable

            Bit rate                         : 5 995 Kbps

            Width                            : 1 280 pixels

            Height                           : 720 pixels

            Display aspect ratio             : 16:9

            Frame rate mode                  : Variable

            Frame rate                       : 59.940 fps

            Minimum frame rate               : 59.920 fps

            Maximum frame rate               : 59.960 fps

            Color space                      : YUV

            Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0

            Bit depth                        : 8 bits

            Scan type                        : Progressive

            Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.109

            Stream size                      : 1.50 GiB (98%)

            Title                            : HMX200

            Language                         : English


            ID                               : 2

            Format                           : AAC

            Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec

            Format version                   : Version 4

            Format profile                   : LC

            Format settings, PS              : Yes

            Codec ID                         : 40

            Duration                         : 35mn 51s

            Bit rate mode                    : Constant

            Bit rate                         : 128 Kbps

            Channel(s)                       : 2 channels

            Channel positions                : Front: L R

            Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz

            Compression mode                 : Lossy

            Stream size                      : 32.8 MiB (2%)

            Title                            : HMX200

            Language                         : English


            • 3. Re: APE 9 Demo
              Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional

              What model of camcorder did this video come from?


              You're getting some strange behavior that seems to indicate that you may be using video from an unsupported camcorder source.


              Also, if you go to Edit/Project Settings, what settings does the project show (since it apparently updated when you imported your video.)?

              • 4. Re: APE 9 Demo
                neophema1@gmail.com Level 1

                It's a Samsung HMX-H200BN-XAA and less than two months old.


                Project settings.JPGProject settings 2.JPG

                • 5. Re: APE 9 Demo
                  Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional

                  From the spcs page for this camcorder, it looks like it may only shoot true AVCHD in 1920x1080 Fine or Superfine mode. I'd recommend you see if that video will work with the 1920x1080 AVCHD project preset.


                  The 1280x720p may or may not be completely compatible.

                  • 6. Re: APE 9 Demo
                    Ted Smith Level 3

                    Assuming you fix you projrct compatibility, If you render the project is the preview still jumpy? Check you have no red lines at the top of the timeline.

                    This has been covered in numerous posts in this forum.


                    I have a similar powered computer using XP


                    I had some jumpiness on preview when I first installed everything on one disk, also stuttering of audio.


                    I split it up so the video is on a separate disk to everything else - much smoother but not perfect

                    Original disk was 2 disks in Raid 1(parallel backup mode)

                    Split that up to two seperate disks. Went smoother again.

                    Put OS & Program on one disk, all project files on second and only imported video on the third.

                    Now shuttles, edits instantly & perfectly smooth in preview once rendered over complicated effects.

                    I'm using full AVCHD 1920X1080i that is more demanding than yours.


                    Seems like PE doesn't like reading and writing to the same disk at the same time

                    • 7. Re: APE 9 Demo
                      neophema1@gmail.com Level 1

                      I don't think your recommendation is to reshoot in 1920x1080, but to use that as a project preset.  I did and as I load the file,  APE9  suggests I change my preset to match the imported video. Just for a drill I said no, and the unedited playback is the same, jumpy.


                      As mentioned before, the project saves to a file that does play normally, no jump/jitter. The challenge is loading a file from the camcorder (downloaded from camcorder to disk) and simply hitting the "play" button. It is painful to watch, and equally difficult to edit.


                      I did notice the 1920x1080 preset produced some noise around the edges of moving objects - in the saved file.

                      • 8. Re: APE 9 Demo
                        Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional

                        No, I am recommending that, at least until you get this sorted out, you try shooting in Super Fine 1920x1080 and set up your Premiere Elements project with a matching preset. See if that solves your problems.


                        The problem with these multi-format camcorders is that some formats do and some formats don't work with Premiere Elements. So you need to start with a known quantity first.