Thanks John for your post.
However, you didn't really answer my question. I still don't know what
specific hardware I need to accomplish the task, and what is overkill.
Second, I know of Sager, I previously owned one. It had severe heat issues
and died after 1 year of use, so I prefer to avoid them.
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If you'r looking for a unit that is portable for location editing, yet powerful enough not to sacrifice editing power, you might want to consider the HP EliteBook 8740w with the NVIDIA Quadro 5000m mobile GPU. The laptop is available with HP's DreamColor display which provides excellent color response and the Quadro 5000m is a Adobe supported GPU for using GPU accelerated Mercury Playback Engine. I've had a chance to use this system, and it is truly a desktop replacement system with all the power to handle Premiere Pro CS5.
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and the Quadro 5000 is vastly overpriced for the performance...
for the price of that lowly mobile processor he could buy a desktop processor laptop (Clevo) such as sager or ADK sells
with a 470 in it and get better video performance (5000 is based on the 460) and have vastly superior processing power
and memory bandwidth...
Thanks for the suggestion Sean,
However, is the Quadro 5000m overkill for what I am trying to do? I do like
the fact that the laptop has their DreamColor display. I really just need
the machine to be able to render real time previews of my projects, which
really aren't overly complicated. Just a few video/audio layers with a few
Scott, I really appreciate that info. If the 470 is enough video card, then
I would definitely rather save the money.
Curious though, if the 470 is supported, would the 480 or the next
generation 580 cards work as well if not better? From what I read on the
forum by the official Adobe moderators, it seems like if the card isn't
listed, then it's not supported, but that doesn't seem to make sense.
yes the 470 mobile is supported we sell them in a serious laptop (Clevo)
for adobe frequently
no point to the 480 on a laptop really plus it runs too hot..
for the record the mobile 5000 is closer to the mobile 480, but for the absurd price is definitely not worth it.
(if you need 10bit color then you should not be on a laptop, or use a matrox MXO.)
where desktop the 5000 is based on the 460 series.
(thinking nVidia is not too fond of me as i dont push the quadro.!)
Glad to see your updated reply as it appears you may have been initially comparing desktop products. As you touched on in your followup, the Quadro 5000m offers 10% more GPU cuda processing cores and 25% more graphics memory than the GTX470M you were comparing it to. Additionally the Quadro 5000M is the only mobile graphics solution which is certified as a supported graphics solution by Adobe for Premiere Pro CS5. I know that plenty of people are comfortable with "hacking" the support in so that unsupported cards can function. However, having officially supported hardware for professional usage is something that other regard as important particularly if having to work through support issues. End users are free to make that decision for themselves based on how important system certification is to them.
Workstation class mobile platforms are not a one sized fit all solution and will be appropriate for some and less appropriate for others. The units on the ADK website look well configured and of course we love to see that you are offering Geforce Mobile Graphics solutions in your high end offerings. However for professional users who require an Adobe supported hardware platform or want the option of next day on-site warranty service to minimize production downtime, the HP 8740w is a very robust solution.
Regardless of whether or not you "push Quadro" were glad you enjoy our graphics solutions and I'm always happy to see people enjoying the benefits of NVIDIA GPUs and CUDA.
Thanks for the additional benchmark info, that is super helpful. I do
however see that the 3800 FX is also one of the supported cards, does that
mean that the 3800m is supported as well?
I am curious as how the GTX 470, Quadro 3800 FX and 5000 cards stack up
against each other.
I am not really doing any hardcore film or TV editing that would require
crazy real time edits. I simply just want a system that will be able to
render the preview content as I am editing my tracks without constantly
stuttering or pausing for preview rendering.
Would any of these cards be sufficient?
Apologize, I meant to address Sean in my last reply.
Regarding the FX 3800M, it is not currently a supported GPU offering for notebooks. The Quadro FX 3800 model for desktops IS a supported solution, but not the mobile variant. We are working closely with Adobe on GPU configurations and have steadily been adding additional GPUs with each Premiere Pro update so its our hope to see it added in the future, but at this point it is an unsupported solution.
Performance is difficult to characterize because there are many variables that come into play. All of the GPU's you mentioned are excellent performers and on a desktop platform, all are fully supported solutions. On a laptop platform the Quadro 5000M is the only supported solution, so if that is important to you (and it really is something to think about from a system ownership standpoint) than that will narrow your focus. Although on the desktop side I would recommend the Quadro 4000 rather than the older Quadro FX 3800.
Additionally there are many metrics beyond just performance. The guiding principal behind the Quadro professional graphics solutions is stability. Quadro products are specifically tested and engineered to provide a positive return on ownership by providing a long life and stable performance using the top professional applications.
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Thanks Sean, appreciate all the information, it has been very helpful.