6 Replies Latest reply on Dec 22, 2010 9:43 AM by John T Smith

    Need advice with my current rig on running CS5

    KrisClean

      I'm jumping into independent HD DSLR filmaking, and I want to make sure I have the right computer setup before pulling the trigger on either the CS5 Production Premium or Master Suites. The only reason I'm considering the Master is my wife does some print and web design stuff, and she really could use the extra programs. I'm also still deciding between the Canon 60D or Panasonic GH2 cameras. Probably going with the GH2, though.

       

      So I've modified my HP P6210Y (don't laugh) a bit over the past year, trying to get away with meeting CS5 requirements for cheap. Yet the more I research (especially after finding this forum), the more I think I might need to spend a lot more to build a PC from the ground up.

       

      Yes, I'm on a budget, so I could use advice on the best course of action. Can I continue upgrading my PC, or would it be best to take some of the upgraded parts I bought and slap them into a new build? Here's what I currently have:

       

      OS: Windows 7 x64 Pro - upgraded from 7 x64 Home

      Mobo: Pegatron M2N78-LA (Violet)

      CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 620

      Memory: 8GB (4 x 2GB)  PC2-6400 DDR2 - upgraded from 6GB

      GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) - upgraded from integrated GeForce 9100

      HD: WD Caviar Blue 640GB 7200 - I also have a Caviar Black WD1501FASS (1.5TB 7200 64gb cache) drive I've held off on installing

      PSU: OCZ ModStream Pro 700w ATX 12V V2.2 - upgraded from stock 300W

      Case: Mid-size ATX, with only 2 HD bays -- the GTX 470 barely fits, btw!

       

      I had researched upgrading the CPU, but it seems I won't gain anything doing so. I'd also been debating spending $400 to replace the RAM with 4 x 4GB. But I don't want to spend that kind of money if the whole setup is gonna suck once I buy and install the CS5.

       

      My other thought was to pull out the GTX 470, the 700W PSU, and the uninstalled 1.5TB WD, and use them on a new 3 Hard Drive i7 build (targeting "around" a $1500 spend). An example (not including a $70 bundle discount for the last three items):

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      My foray into filmmaking is getting really pricey, and of course, I'd rather not spend the extra dough on a new build. Your thoughts, advice and suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks!

        • 1. Re: Need advice with my current rig on running CS5
          Jim_Simon Level 9
          Probably going with the GH2, though.

           

          Might want to rethink that.

           

          "...there are no DSLRs currently on the market that can produce the quality  of video that could be considered for any serious applications. Due to  the 'line-skipping' down-converting methods of cameras like Canon's EOS  5D MK2 where the method of downscaling to get a HD video picture size of  1920x1080 is achieved by simply deleting (skipping) lines on the large  sensor. This, and other limitations such as a lack of decent low-pass  video filtering, means that DSLRs like the 5D MK2 suffer from chronic  aliasing, compression artifacts, bayer-type patterning, stepping and  other retarded picture degrading phenomena."

           

          " I've decided that the Panasonic AG-AF101 film-like HD camcorder is  absolutely, unequivocally the all-new independent low-budget filmmakers  weapon of choice; it’s the camcorder filmmakers have been waiting on for  20 years."

           

          http://www.dvuser.co.uk/content.php?CID=246

          • 2. Re: Need advice with my current rig on running CS5
            MitchJones

            I have a couple similar questions and was wondering if a duel response was possible. I have been working with Adobe CS4, mostly Photoshop, Flash and Premeire, to complete my portfolio. I also use some non-Adobe software; mainly Autodesk Revit, Maya and 3dStudioMax. However my 2.0 Ghz, 4 GB Ram Intel Core 2 duo laptop has been crushing my spirit, heart, and most of all my time. So recently I decided to early Christmas present/put myself in debt by assembling a faster computer with atleast the possibility of modern computer games. Specs are as follows:


            -ASUS P6x58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel x58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

            -Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 Quad Core

            -XFX HD-685x-ZDFC Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x 16 HDCP(considering crossfiring same in future if needed)

            -Corsair CMPSU-650 TX 650W ATX12V/EPS12V

            -Corsair Dominator 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600(PC3 12800)

            -Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0 Gb/s 3.5" IHD

            -Lite-on 24x DVD writer SATA Model iHAS424-98 (planning on adding a bluray burner in the future)

            -Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

            -(Already have case)


            My questions are (1) Is 650W enough for the PSU?

            (2)Should the internal Hard drive be upgraded to a 6Gb/s?

            My last but main question (3) I am considering adding a SSD, possibly the (a)Intel X25-V SSDSA2MP040G2K5 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) or (b) Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD). Is the additional money (from $90 rising to $275 for the 128 GB) worthwhile or if I should just purchase another HDD?

             

            Thank you,

             

            Mitchell Jones

             

             

            • 3. Re: Need advice with my current rig on running CS5
              KrisClean Level 1

              Jim, you've definitely zeroed in one of the main weaknesses of DSLR cameras. But that's exactly one reason I'm leaning toward the Panasonic DMC-GH2! The other biggie is video auto focus, btw.

               

              Like the AG-AF100 (the AF101 is the UK version), the GH2 has a 4/3 sensor. And also like the AF100, the GH2 is brand new; it *just* started shipping in the last week or two. Technically, it isn't a "DSLR," since it doesn't have a mirror. Perhaps a more accurate term for the GH2 and 5D-Mk II types is "removable lens cameras." The GH2 has caused quite the recent stir in the DSLR crowd.

               

              In any event, yes, the AF100 sure has several more and better features than the GH2. The GH2 is generally a better fit for a beginning filmmaker, however, because it costs only $900. The AF100 is $4795. Very tough to justify the spend when you're starting out from scratch. A heck of a lot of other necessary gear can be bought for that price difference. Like computer stuff!

               

              So with that in mind, does anyone have feedback on my PC dilemma?

              • 4. Re: Need advice with my current rig on running CS5
                KrisClean Level 1

                Anybody? Bueller?? hehe

                 

                To clarify why I mentioned my camera choices, I understand both the Canon 60D's H.264 and the Panasonic GH2's AVCHD can be edited natively in Premier. I didn't know if this difference had any significant effect on my situation. By the way, I just today decided to buy the GH2.

                • 5. Re: Need advice with my current rig on running CS5
                  KrisClean Level 1

                  Bump.

                   

                  Help! I'm paralyzed on this!

                  • 6. Re: Need advice with my current rig on running CS5
                    John T Smith Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                    Go to the Premiere Pro CS5 Benchmark http://ppbm5.com/ site and read the results to see what scores high and low

                     

                    From what I've read, an AMD is not NEARLY as good as an Intel i7 processor, especially for HD video