0 Replies Latest reply on Dec 19, 2010 9:41 PM by Timsart32

    Multiple users on computer

    Timsart32

      This question is somewhat answered on other forum posts, but it begs to be asked again. If enough people ask, maybe the bean counters will start to understand how regular customers buy and use books. Then those same features will be available on eBooks.

       

      Just installed ADE on one computer, under one user account. (System: Windows XP PRO sp3). Did this as both my wife and myself are getting eBook readers for Christmas. (Augen "TheBook" units)

       

      First issue / question why not have multiple user ID's supported on single device through the ADE interface directly?

       

      Can I actually have multiple activated ID's on XP via separate user log-ins? (Again, ADE should be one program instance with multi-users IDs to the one instance, not separate Windows accounts. It should also have a share/loan function and frankly an ownership transfer function.)

       

      The eReader device itself does not appear to support multiple user logins. So, I guess that means the reader is lock to a single Adobe ID?

       

      When will the above changes occur if ever?

       

      (I am also posing this question to Augen's tech support.)

       

      My soapbox comments to feed up to the publishing world's bean counters that are forcing DRM and fixing prices.

       

      Real world buying habits. Single book bought by myself or wife may be read by both of us. (Gee! Isn't that a surprise! We don't buy 2 copies.) And maybe occasionally loaned to a friend, passed on to a friend, donated to charity or sold at a garage sale. More likely sitting on a shelf after one or 2 reads.

       

      Real world current MSRP/list price on a new eBook: As much as or maybe slightly less than the same printed Hardbound book. More than same printed paperback book.(Viewed recent Mary Higgins Clark book as example: 75% of Amazon hardcover price and 163% of not yet released paperback price.)

       

      Real world cost of delivering eBook vs printed book: About one-tenth the cost of a printed book. And that is with all the extra manpower wasted on DRM programing and servers.It would be a twentieth without the DRM costs.

       

      Printing, warehousing and transporting books is not cheap. I am in the printing business. I know this.

       

      An eBook cuts out all the labor and material of printing, all the costs of physical warehouse and transport, and wasted un-sold product or remaindered product. Unsold returns from retailer back to distributor or manufacturer very by catagory and title. But range from 10-50%. That all is gone with an eBook.

       

      So, every level from publishing to retail is more profitable with the ebook model.

       

      Real world use of an Ebook with DRM ePub. Restricted to single user on apparently 6 computers and 6 portable devices. Effect is that at best I can buy a book and others in my household may read it on one of the registered devices as well. I have paid as much or more than a trade paperback. Publisher has received a higher profit by far and so has seller. Author has not received a higher percentage or royalty most likely.

       

      I can not sell it as used, I can not donate it to charity or library. This, even though I have paid full retail and that is effectively ten plus times as much over traditional printed book production and distribution costs. Distributor actually may have higher costs as they must maintain records access for an extended time, which with court cases will in the future probably mean 20 plus years. But, that cost should be well offset by no warehousing or brick & mortar store costs.

       

      Of coarse I can still read the full printed library of Mark Twain books that my grandmother purchased for my father and uncle in the 1920's today. And those books will last another 100 years with moderate care. So I am paying ten times more than cost, and book may last 20 years (with luck and no business failure)  INSTEAD OF 200.

       

      Long story short, I am willing to purchase an ePub even with reasonable DRM protections and at a price at or lower than trade paperback, even at 75% of hard bound one new releases on occasion. But, at the much higher profit potential of a single purchased book to publisher and retailer, one should be able to use and share it the same as a printed book.

       

      As it is, I can not even directly buy an eBook on most sites as a gift. Don't publishers know that books a often bought as gifts?

       

      Publishers: If your eBook sales are not at the level you would expect, maybe, just maybe the points above may have something to do with why consumers are not buying into eBooks as you would hope.

       

      I guess that ends my rant for now.