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1. Re: Bounding box of placed pdf 'reflecting' objects of parent Ai file... Not what I want!
JETalmage Jan 17, 2011 10:12 PM (in response to andyvisuals)Why?
I don't know; I just chalk it up as another instance of the sloppiness that permeates Illustrator, and the convoluted multiple nested clipping paths so common in PDFs.
If I place the PDF as a Link, its bounding box corresponds to the clipping mask of the PDF.
If I place the PDF embedded, not linked, then I get the result you describe.
That arguably sort of makes sense in that, when you "place" (but embed) a PDF in Illustrator, you're really importing its content, including the nested clipping paths; and AI CS3 and prior always displays the bounds and edges of masked portions of clipping paths. When you "place" the PDF as a link, it's a preview that displays on the page, as if you were just linking a raster image.
In CS4 and CS5, Adobe finally fixed the silliness of displaying edges of masked portions of the content of clipping paths, so in those versions, it probably acts the way you want whether linked or embedded. (I only have CS3 on this laptop, so can't verify right now.)
JET
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2. Re: Bounding box of placed pdf 'reflecting' objects of parent Ai file... Not what I want!
Mylenium Jan 18, 2011 12:04 AM (in response to andyvisuals)Have you verified your box settings in Acrobat? You could crop the whole shebang by setting the view box equal to the page box there...
Mylenium
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3. Re: Bounding box of placed pdf 'reflecting' objects of parent Ai file... Not what I want!
JETalmage Jan 18, 2011 5:17 AM (in response to Mylenium)AI gives you the choice of which box to use upon import. The undesired result occurs regardless. Neither Illustrator nor Acrobat actually crops the overhanging image; just masks it with a clipping path.
JET
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4. Re: Bounding box of placed pdf 'reflecting' objects of parent Ai file... Not what I want!
Mike Gondek2 Jan 18, 2011 6:14 AM (in response to andyvisuals)There is no connection between the .pdf and the .ai file. If you deleted the .ai file form your computer you would have the same problem.
I did a AICS4>>file >> save as >> pdf and placed the .pdf into a new .ai. All 5 options cropped to 8.5", most exactly to 8.5" x 11", Art to 8.5" x about 6".
I did this twice, once as Illustrator Default PDF, and the other time as smallest file size PDF. Try using on of these default PDF settings and let us know what your result is. Are you using distiller or printing to a .pdf, and are you on mac or PC? Try duplicating exactly what I did and let us know the result and what version of AI you are running.
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5. Re: Bounding box of placed pdf 'reflecting' objects of parent Ai file... Not what I want!
andyvisuals Jan 18, 2011 7:07 AM (in response to Mike Gondek2)I am using Illustrator CS3 on a Mac.
Mike I tried your AICs3>>file>>save as>>pdf and Placed... and with any option chosen in the "Place PDF/Crop To" dialog box the annoying bloated bounding box still occurs...unless I "link" it.
Also if I click-'drag' the same file from its folder and over (into) the new AI file - bingo - I get what I want too.
JET - your place...link vs place...embed is the key. Thanks. Why you would want that difference is beyond me but I'll take what I can for now.
Mostly solved.
Thanks.
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6. Re: Bounding box of placed pdf 'reflecting' objects of parent Ai file... Not what I want!
Mike Gondek2 Jan 18, 2011 7:19 AM (in response to andyvisuals)Link makes your .ai files smaller and faster by linking to the graphics rather than placing embedding a copy of the graphic into the .ai file. Also helps with consistency in design so if you update a graphic, all instances will update.
Embedding is for people who have difficulty remembering where they store their graphic files and have had problems with broken links in the past. There are a few instances where you need to embed a graphic to perform an effect.




