9 Replies Latest reply: Jan 20, 2011 3:15 PM by Bill Hunt RSS

    lead in videos for bluRay

    ANTHONY THOMAS Community Member

      I like to begin my bluRay with a lead in video that takes you to the main menu. Both of my players play these lead ins pretty choppy. They are usually short and involve some sort of klaidescope effect. Is there some secret to how long they should be. Should I fade in from black and lengthen the real video effect to get it to show?

        • 1. Re: lead in videos for bluRay
          Stan Jones CommunityMVP

          What is the format/framerate etc?  Is Encore transoding them or are they bluray ready?  What do they look like when you play them on the computer before Encore?

          • 2. Re: lead in videos for bluRay
            ANTHONY THOMAS Community Member

            I try to keep it the same as my film, 29.97 , 1920 X 1080, upper field first. I create these shorts in After Effects and output them to wmv and then convert them to m2v with a double pass in the encoder

            • 3. Re: lead in videos for bluRay
              Stan Jones CommunityMVP

              wmv is not a good intermediate file.

               

              What version of Encore/AE?  why not dynamic link?

              • 4. Re: lead in videos for bluRay
                ANTHONY THOMAS Community Member

                I have CS5 and have the option of using dynamic link. Someone suggested to me that I shouldn't use After Effects to produce a m2v file that it would be better to do this with the media encoder. Should I dynamic link from AE to Premiere, is that possible

                • 5. Re: lead in videos for bluRay
                  Stan Jones CommunityMVP

                  Should I dynamic link from AE to Premiere, is that possible


                  I believe it should work; try it.

                  Someone suggested to me that I shouldn't use After Effects to produce a m2v file that it would be better to do this with the media encoder.

                  I believe that is the best workflow, if not using dynamic link, but you use a lossless intermediate, not wmv.

                  • 6. Re: lead in videos for bluRay
                    Jon Geddes Community Member

                    anthony10@verizon.net wrote:

                     

                    Should I dynamic link from AE to Premiere, is that possible

                     

                    You can dynamic link directly from AE into Encore. There is no need to go to Premiere. Make sure you include 1 to 2 seconds of black before your intro video, and fade it in from there, as it can sometimes take a second for the player to lock in on the video signal, and may cut off the first 15 frames to 1 second.

                    • 7. Re: lead in videos for bluRay
                      Stan Jones CommunityMVP

                      I missed that he was asking about AE to PR!  Never occurred to me to even think anything other than AE to EN!  Thanks for correcting that and confirming that it works fine.

                      • 8. Re: lead in videos for bluRay
                        Jon Geddes Community Member

                        One more thing... If your AE comp is moderately complex, you will have problems rendering it in Encore via dynamic link, and you may want to render it to a Quicktime Movie using the Animation codec. This quicktime movie can then be imported into Encore and used as an asset instead of using dynamic link.

                         

                        I personally would render to the quicktime movie, as I always try and eliminate as many steps as possible for Encore to perform, as this will increase your chances for a successful build without errors.

                        • 9. Re: lead in videos for bluRay
                          Bill Hunt CommunityMVP

                          Anthony,

                           

                          I think that Stanley and Jon have pointed you in the right direction, but I wanted to address one particular question in your original post:

                          Is there some secret to how long they should be.

                          No, there is not max length. This intro will be your Play First Timeline, and could, in fact, be the entire BD. Other than the consideration for the total Duration of all Timelines, and their size on the BD, there is no limit.

                           

                          Jon's suggestion for the Black Video is also good too, if you have DD 5.1 SS Audio, as many players (especially higher-end ones) need that same amount of time to lock onto the Audio, as well.

                           

                          Also, the use of Black Video with either Dip-to-Black, or Cross-Dissolves at the beginning, and the end of Timelines can "mask" things like the time that the laser needs to change positions. The viewer could see a black "flash," but with a Dip-to-Black, they will never know when the laser has to move about, as the time of black will never be seen, and could only be measured with a very good stopwatch. To the viewer it appears to be perfectly linear, and smooth as silk.

                           

                          I also really like Jon's comment on taking the processing load off of Encore, wherever possible. I wish that more people felt that way. I am glad that he made that particular statement!

                           

                          Good luck,

                           

                          Hunt