1 Reply Latest reply: Feb 3, 2011 2:54 PM by P Spier RSS

    [CS4 Win] Weird 'Bug' giving overset text in duplicate object - stumped!

    Skempy Community Member

      Hi all,

       

      I am experiencing a perculiar 'bug' in InDesign CS4 (Windows).

      I have a triangular text frame rotated by 45° with a 0.2mm inset.

       

      This frame contains two words who's point size is just big enough to fit the text in the frame without it oversetting.

      The leading is set to 100% of the point size.

       

      When I duplicate the text frame either with the Duplicate command, cut 'n' paste or alt dragging, the new text frame is overset!

       

      I cannot find any difference between the two objects what so ever.

       

      If, in the original text frame, I change the text frame options inset to 0 and then back to the original 0.2 mm, I get overset!

       

      Scaling the original up by any amount also causes overset, as does increasing the height of the frame and then returning it to its original height.

       

      I have tried exporting as a snippet but the new placed text frame oversets.

       

      Does anyone have any idea might be causing this behaviour.

      It doesn't do it in CS3 or in CS5.

       

      example.gif

      I have included a link to an example file, you will need to have the same font (HelveticaNeueLTPro-BlkCn) to see the problem.

      I can't upload this for obvious copyright reasons - sorry.

       

      http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7307068/flashes.indd

       

      Thanks for ANY input.

       

      Simon Kemp.

        • 1. Re: [CS4 Win] Weird 'Bug' giving overset text in duplicate object - stumped!
          P Spier CommunityMVP

          Hi Simon.

           

          My initial reaction was it might have to do with the third party plugins, but I exported to .inx to strip them out, and then NONE of the frames had both words. I also thought it might be that the the frame isn't a right triangle and the slight angles on the vertical and horizontal might be a problem, but I made a new frame with the same hypotenuse but the correct legs, and that didn't make a difference, either. (I made it by drawing a rectangular frame exactly half as high as it was wide, adding a point at the center of the top path segment with the pen, then deleted the two upper corner points).

           

          I have to say my conclusion is that the problem here is there really isn't enough room in the frame for both words with that inset. Adding 3% to the size of the frame (by clicking the chainlink to link changes to height and width, then typing +3% after the height [adding in the scale fields scales the type, too, so don't do it there] and pressing Enter) brings both words into view.

           

          Curiously, When I opened the file in CS5, the words fit without messing around. Cutting and pasting the frames with overset made both words appear. This could be due to the new way ID deals with text in non-rectangular shapes. When I opened the .inx file without the plugin information in CS5 all the text was visible in all frames. I think the only reason the text ever fit in the original CS4 file might have to do with one of the plugins, but that's pure speculation. I don't think there's any sort of bug here.