24 Replies Latest reply: Feb 21, 2014 7:22 AM by rob day RSS

    PDF with page curl effect

    ksng77 Community Member

      Hi,

       

      I understand that Indesign can produce pdf with page curl effect. what if I only have a pdf file and i want to include the page curl effect? anybody knows what's the quickest way to do this? Is there any way to import multiple pdf pages into Indesign CS5 so that i can republish it from Indesign CS5? or is there any third party software that can do this easily?

       

      thanks in advance

        • 1. Re: PDF with page curl effect
          [Jongware]-9BC6tI Community Member

          You understand wrong -- the Page Curl is NOT available for exporting to PDF.

          See http://help.adobe.com/en_US/indesign/cs/using/WSE9637270-6B1C-4287-A97B-0EC73859A3EB.html -- it says "(SWF only)". (Doesn't it also say that in the Transition options dialog?)

           

          With that out of the way,

           

          function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}

          what if I only have a pdf file and i want to include the page curl effect?

           

          See above.

           

          function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}

          anybody knows what's the quickest way to do this?

           

          See above.

           

          function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}

          Is there any way to import multiple pdf pages into Indesign CS5 so that i can republish it from Indesign CS5?

          or is there any third party software that can do this easily?

           

          Sure. Search for "Scott Zanelli's PDF Import script".

           

          (... If all you wanted was to get that nice page curl in your PDF, you probably stopped reading already.)

          • 2. Re: PDF with page curl effect
            Eugene Tyson MVP

            Wasn't there a way to place a SWF into InDesign with the page curl. Then export that to PDF?

             

            It's just a SWF in a PDF wrapper, but it worked. Unfortunately I can't get this to work for me when I try it?

            • 3. Re: PDF with page curl effect
              Jeffrey_Smith MVP

              I think you would be better off doing this in Acrobat with the multimedia Flash tool and inserting an [Indesign created page curl .swf] into a PDF

              • 4. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                BobLevine UGM

                Me? I think you'd be better off not doing it at all.

                 

                You wind up with unscalable, unreadable eye candy.

                 

                Just my $0.02,

                 

                Bob

                • 5. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                  Jeffrey_Smith MVP

                  I agree, the page curl effect in a PDF has no value. For the OP, if page curl is absolutely necessary, produce a swf. And for a truely engaging piece, you would need to take it to the next level, an app or service that adds zooming, searching, navigation, etc. If the piece needs to be a PDF, produce one for full screen view with any page transition that looks just as nice as a page curl.

                  • 6. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                    Eugene Tyson MVP

                    page-flip offers this http://page-flip.com/

                    • 7. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                      ksng77 Community Member

                      yeap, i totally understand that the page curl effect in pdf will not add any value to it and it actually makes the content hard to read as it turns the pages to images but this is what my client wants.

                      • 8. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                        ksng77 Community Member

                        Hi Eugene,

                         

                        I downloaded this before and it produces a html file, a swf file and all the linked images are stored in another image folder. I'm just wondering how can i add this flash file in acrobat 9 PRO so that i can have a single pdf file with the page curl effect?

                        • 9. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                          ksng77 Community Member

                          yes, i have downloaded the Scott Zanelli's PDF Import script. I works in Indesign CS4 but doesn't work in CS5.

                          • 10. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                            ksng77 Community Member

                            yes, this is what i intend to do but the problem is my client has this pdf with 300+ pages and i can't find a way to place multiple pdf pages into Indesign CS5. the Scott Zanelli's PDF Import script only works for CS4 and not CS5 and it will be very time consuming to place the pages one by one in Indesign.

                            • 11. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                              ksng77 Community Member

                              yes.. what I'm looking for is a third party software that can convert a pdf file into a "single" swf file (with page curl effect, next, back and zoom button) so that I can import the swf file into acrobat pro and then publish it to a single pdf file with page curl effect. I have tried a lot of third party software but all of them are not producing a single swf file. The swf file has all the images linked from another folder so importing the swf into acrobat pro will not work.

                              • 12. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                                Peter Spier ACP/MVPs

                                ksng77 wrote:

                                 

                                yes, i have downloaded the Scott Zanelli's PDF Import script. I works in Indesign CS4 but doesn't work in CS5.

                                It will work if you put it in a subfolder named "Version 6.0 Scripts" (without the quotes).

                                • 13. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                                  BobLevine UGM

                                  Have you discussed with your client why this might not be such a hot idea?

                                   

                                  Bob

                                  • 14. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                                    Mr. Met Community Member

                                    I can't imagine why page curl is a deal breaker. Explain the process and cost to them for you to take the extra time and labor to make it work. Page curl is like drop shadows were when ID first came out. "ooh look." But after a while it's just a distraction. Almost screams "amateur" in most cases.

                                    • 15. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                                      ksng77 Community Member

                                      Thanks. i will try it again.


                                      • 16. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                                        ksng77 Community Member

                                        Hi,

                                        I totally agreed and i have explained to my boss about it as I don't deal with the client directly but my boss said that the client wants it this way and they are paying for it so we just do what they want so it's really up to him whether he wants to explain to the client or not and I have done what i could to explain to him.

                                         

                                        cheers.

                                        • 17. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                                          Petteri_Paananen Community Member

                                          If this sample>> is something you are looking for, you may want to check eDocker...

                                           

                                          With eDocker, you can create interactive magazines directly from InDesign, with hyperlinks, videos, animations etc... and page curl is there too.

                                          • 18. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                                            ksng77 Community Member

                                            yes, this looks similar to what i want but the final file has to be in a single

                                            pdf file so does this software produce a single swf so that i can import it into Acrobat

                                            Pro and publish it to a pdf?


                                            • 19. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                                              Petteri_Paananen Community Member

                                              No, eDocker uses SWF files that InDesign exports... but there is also a PDF version of that file published, if you go to that sample, you will see a PDF icon on bottom-right corner. By clicking it you can download a PDF version of that publication.

                                               

                                              Embedding SWF with page curl to PDF is not a good idea. I have tried to get it work for 2 years with no luck. With current softwares and technology it´s impossible to make it work.

                                               

                                              If you really need to get a single file with all those functionalities, you can create an Adobe AIR desktop app, and bake all those files inside it. That way you can deliver a nice and clean installer file to all your customers, and they can install that publication app in few second to their computers.

                                              • 20. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                                                venaseph Community Member

                                                Most management/sales departments would rather let a product go out craptastic, rather then take the time to explain to a client why a curl effect that changes your pdf to image files might not be the best idea... Typical, see it all the time in the print industry. Gimmicky waste of resources when you could produce something of value instead.

                                                 

                                                You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink...

                                                • 21. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                                                  JeffWool1 Community Member

                                                  Adobe, wake up and provide the page curl effect. My wife just changed to Mac because of the page curl effect. I'm next. Adapt or perish.

                                                  • 22. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                                                    Steve Werner ACP/MVPs

                                                    @Jeff,

                                                     

                                                    Adobe isn't here, just users like you (many of whom disagree with you, by the way). If you have a feature request, make it here:

                                                     

                                                    Adobe - Feature Request/Bug Report Form

                                                    • 23. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                                                      sandeecohen ACP/MVPs

                                                      @JeffWool1,

                                                       

                                                      It's no longer Adobe in charge of whether or not the page curl is added to PDF files.

                                                       

                                                      PDF is now an open standard and as such it is a group that has to approve changes to the basic file format to support page curl.

                                                       

                                                      I doubt there would be a major change like that.

                                                       

                                                      In addition, it would be extremely problematic for anyone to put a page curl PDF based on SWF (which is what the actual page curl is) because it wouldn't be able to be seen on tablets. And SWF files will never play again on tablets. In fact, it is getting more difficult to get them to play on computers.

                                                       

                                                      Finally, your wife didn't have to switch to the Mac just for the page curl. That is a cross platform SWF feature. But again, it is only for desktop devices.

                                                       

                                                      It is possible to get a page curl effect on tablets, but that is not an SWF feature.

                                                       

                                                      Best,

                                                       

                                                      Sandee

                                                      • 24. Re: PDF with page curl effect
                                                        rob day MVP

                                                        In fact, it is getting more difficult to get them to play on computers.

                                                        Sandy, your not a Candy Crush fan?

                                                         

                                                        And SWF files will never play again on tablets

                                                        Not that it matters, but checkout the Photon browser app, works surprisingly well.