9 Replies Latest reply on Feb 24, 2011 6:00 AM by INTYME1985

    Age Old Question:  FrontPage to DreamWeaver

    ScottSutherland

      Greetings!

       

      I've been sifting through forums and search engine results for HOURS now.  I'm looking for som kind of comprehensive guide to converting FrontPage sites (and/or FrontPage functionality) to DreamWeaver.  Specifically, I'm using DreamWeaver 8 (I think -- the version that comes with Adobe CS3 Master Suite).  I was excited to come across this link: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/frontpage_to_dw8.html which is described as being a "FrontPage 2003 to Dreamweaver 8 migration guide".  PERFECT!  Except that the link evidently no longer works.  Try it.  You'll land on a pagethat (very disappointingly" says "Sorry, this page is not available".  I tied the "archive" mentioned on that page, but had no luck.

       

      Can anyone tell me if this "guide" exists anymore and (if so) where I can find it?  If not, does anyone have a suggestion for a suitable replacement "guide"?

       

      Thanks much!!

       

      Scott <><

        • 1. Re: Age Old Question:  FrontPage to DreamWeaver
          Ben M Adobe Community Professional

          Kind of a couple years late on this one coming into DW 9 (that should be CS3, 8 should still be Macromedia version).  I'm not sure if there is still a guide as even Frontpage has been retired since 2006.  If you have a specific question about the migration I am sure that there are users here who would be willing to help you out and find alternatives to many of the common Frontpage features that used to exist.  Just post away.

          • 2. Re: Age Old Question:  FrontPage to DreamWeaver
            Nancy OShea Adobe Community Professional & MVP

            If you're comfortable with HTML and CSS code DW will be much easier for you to learn.  If not, take some time to review the basics.

            HTML & CSS Tutorials - http://w3schools.com/

             

            From Tables to CSS part I

            http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/table_to_css_pt1.html

             

            Part II

            http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/table_to_css_pt2.html

             

             

            Nancy O.
            Alt-Web Design & Publishing
            Web | Graphics | Print | Media  Specialists 
            http://alt-web.com/
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            • 3. Re: Age Old Question:  FrontPage to DreamWeaver
              MurraySummers Level 8

              I can help you do this conversion.  It may be much easier than you think.

               

              Post a link to your current site so we can see the code behind the pages, please.

              • 4. Re: Age Old Question:  FrontPage to DreamWeaver
                ScottSutherland Level 1

                I could have my versions wrong.  It's definitely CS3, but I wasn't sure where to find the release number for DreamWeaver specifically.  :-)

                 

                Yeah, I know it's late for this, but I only got CS3 a little while ago.  And I've been using FrontPage for years.  Gotten pretty comfortable with it, and it's really continued to work for me so there was no great urgency.  I'm just at the point now where I think it's time to bite the bullet and make the Big Switch.

                 

                At the moment, I don't have any particular questions.  I knew I was about to embark on this journey, so I thought I'd just poke around the search engines & forums and see if there was something general (like the elusive migration guide that DID exist at one point) that I might grab as a basic "migration reference".

                 

                I've been designing websites for probably about 7 years now, and I'm quite comfortable with HTML, some CSS and a bit of PHP.  I have no qualms about jumping into HTML source code and mucking about, so I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty as needed.  Honestly, one of the hardest things about converting from one application to another like this is often finding things!  So what I was REALLY hoping for was some sort of guide that said "To do ABC in FrontPage, you'd click menu A, submenu B, option C, then do so-and-so.  To accomplish the same in DreamWeaver, you click menu X, submenu B, grab this widget, drag it here, and do so-and-so."  Something like that could prove to be extremely helpful as a reorient myself to a new webdesign toolset.

                 

                But I'm also ready to just jump in and learn by Adobe tutorials, trial, error, and yes, even the Help file :-)  It's very encouraging to know that you all (I guess I can actually say "y'all", since I live in Florida) are out here and willing to help if I get stuck in some deep, dark place.  I promise I shall take you up on it if it comes to that.  My hair's turning gray, but I do want to keep it ;-)

                 

                Oh, and if any of you just happen to stumble across that elusive Guide, PLEASE let me know :-)

                 

                Thanks again to all, and have a WONDERFUL evening!!

                • 5. Re: Age Old Question:  FrontPage to DreamWeaver
                  MurraySummers Level 8

                  If you are comfortable in HTML and CSS, then just define your DW site to point into the root folder of the FP site, and begin editing the pages to remove ALL FP's proprietary VML markup - Word Art, all shared borders, and CLEAN UP THE CODE (ewww how messy it is).

                   

                  You should be fine.

                  • 6. Re: Age Old Question:  FrontPage to DreamWeaver
                    ScottSutherland Level 1

                    Thanks, Murray.  Actually, what I planned to do was simply make a copy of one of my sites, dump all the FrontPage folders (_vti, etc.), and then open the site with DW.  I'd starting working the "clean up" from there.  Meantime, since it's only a COPY, I haven't destroyed the working Fp code, just in case I need to do something with the live site before the Dw site's done & tested :-)

                    • 7. Re: Age Old Question:  FrontPage to DreamWeaver
                      MurraySummers Level 8

                      Be aware that you will have to recreate any of those FP functions (guest books, form processing, FP shared borders, etc.).  And DO NOT FTP anything onto the FP site or you will knock out the FP Server Extensions.

                      • 8. Re: Age Old Question:  FrontPage to DreamWeaver
                        ScottSutherland Level 1

                        Murray:

                         

                        Fortunately I've never used FP's forms processing.  Any forms I've done have utilized third-party functionality (like Aweber, etc.).  No guestbooks.  I think by biggest areas of potential FP function cleanup are going to be around webbots (FP's version of includes) and FP's image swapping/preloading.

                         

                        As for FTP, I've been FTP'ing my FP sites from the beginning.  I think at some point I was using a host that didn't support FP extensions.  So I just got in the habit of doing FTP all the time :-)  Works fine.

                         

                        Thanks again!

                         

                        Scott <><

                        • 9. Re: Age Old Question:  FrontPage to DreamWeaver
                          INTYME1985 Level 1

                          fwiw...  I'm an old FP user and only 2nd year on DW (CS4, now 5)..  I spent several months looking for a short cut (surely there is something out there?)

                           

                          I ended up opening my FP site on the right screen, then rewrote it from scratch in DW on the left screen (dual monitor config).  I develop a template first, then create each page thereafter.

                           

                          Old site

                          http://www.kansascitycrates.com/

                           

                          New Site

                          http://www.uscrates.com/

                           

                          And after that learning experience, I am now rewriting the old site once more for my original domain.

                          http://www.kansascitycrates.com/index2.html

                           

                          Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, lol, Adobe has some great tutorials, good luck it will be worth it!