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1. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
Harm Millaard Mar 9, 2011 2:55 AM (in response to SuperCrawler)Steps to take:
1. Press the Overview tab at the top of the hardware forum and start reading.
2. Check out the PPBM5 Benchmark and especially the results pages and Latest News page. Check the i5-2500 system at around rank 207, around 10 times slower than a fast system.
3. Read threads here about system configurations in different budget categories.
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2. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
SuperCrawler Mar 9, 2011 3:04 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)Thank you.
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3. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
SuperCrawler Mar 9, 2011 4:00 AM (in response to SuperCrawler)Quoting from Latest News, updated February 28, 2011, at http://ppbm5.com/News.html :
"The first Sandy Bridge results ... nice performer ... Still, the platform is severely handicapped by the lack of PCI-e lanes on the P67 motherboard ..."
Does this mean that there is no board available yet with enough to meet the needs of Sandy Bridge?
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4. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
Harm Millaard Mar 9, 2011 4:10 AM (in response to SuperCrawler)Read: Adobe Forums: Tapeless workflows and Sandy Bridge or...
Beware that the Latest News was based in results from the 2600K. The much less capable i5-2500 only came into the results list later and shows its weakness in comparison to the 2600K.
Basically, if you never need a hardware raid controller, the 2600K and its P68 platform is very nice. If you need a hardware raid ontroller, accept that you have to use the video card at half speed. Beware that nearly all the top performing systems use (large) raid arrays with dedicated controllers.
Each system is only as fast as its weakest link.
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5. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
SuperCrawler Mar 9, 2011 5:37 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)Thanks for your reply and for the links.
Harm Millaard wrote:
"... if you never need a hardware raid controller, the 2600K and its P68 platform is very nice."As a complete beginner with Adobe, still completely unaware of what I can achieve with CS5 Master Collection, what are my chances that I will need a hardware raid controller soon?
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6. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
Harm Millaard Mar 9, 2011 5:51 AM (in response to SuperCrawler)That is completely dependent on your source material, your editing style, the nature of your timelines and the time pressure you are under with your projects. There is no clear cut answer to this question and it also depends on how long you intend to use the system before upgrading to the next one. When I started with PR, I used three disks to start with, then got a 2 port (software) raid card, then progressed to a 4 port hardware controller and am now using a 12 port hardware controller and my next one will be a 24 port controller.
Much of the information you are looking for can be found here: Adobe Forums: To RAID or not to RAID, that is the...
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7. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
SuperCrawler Mar 9, 2011 6:11 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)Thanks.
It has just registered in my brain that I have been asking questions in this thread for which there are already many nice answers in this site!
Thanks for steering me in the right directions with all the links you provided and suggestions you posted.
I will go read them now.
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8. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
JEShort01 Mar 9, 2011 6:13 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)"Each system is only as fast as its weakest link" - So true!
"...nearly all the top performing systems use (large) RAID arrays with dedicated controllers" - Agree; PPro CS5 does indeed need some serious I/O and the best way to get that is with a hardware RAID card
"If you need a hardware RAID controller [with 2600k CPU P67 platform], accept that you have to use the video card at half speed" - Don't agree with how this might be interpreted for the readership here; I'll elaborate:
While the PCIe lanes available for a slot1 installed video card do indeed drop from x16 to x8 when you add a x8 PCIe controller card. The "speed" of the video card however still runs at whatever clock speed that it was running at before, and from what I can tell is either not limited by the x8 lanes, or limited ever so slightly by the decrease for today's available video cards.
I used Harm and Bill's PPBM5 benchmark for a P55 motherboard that is similarly crippled to Sandy Bridge (P67) motherboards in that when you add a 2nd PCIe device, slot 1 drops from 16x lanes to 8x lanes. My posted results on this system as JES1 show the GPU assisted timeline render time at 6 seconds, but subsequent tweaking on this system since I posted the results brought this time down to 5 seconds (the best time reported for any system is 4 seconds). I contend that the 8x lane for the GPU in this case was clearly NOT a "weakest link" in the system and therefore just not that big of an issue. This system was using an Areca ARC-1680ix-12 RAID controller with 8 1TB drives in a RAID5 array in another on of the PCIe slots (8x lanes).
An observation on my current rig (X58, i7-950 running at 4.3GHz, GTX 480 running at 850MHz, 8x1TB RAID 5 on Areca 1680ix) is that when I am doing GPU aided playback on a 4 layer HDV (1920x1080) project the CPUs are running max'd out (just a hair under 100% utilization) whereas the GPU (not limited by a 8x PCIe in this case) is just loafing along at a 22% utilization.
Bottom line, for CS5 64-bit as we know it today, I would contend that while a certain level of nVidia MPE performance is essential to keep the GPU from being a weakest link, however in the scheme of things the GPU performance is by far the easiest to achieve. Also with that being the case, I do sense that a P67 based system would be a fine choice for PPro CS5 even with a dedicated controller card.
Jim
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9. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
SuperCrawler Mar 9, 2011 7:31 AM (in response to JEShort01)Thanks Jim.
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10. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
framednoise Mar 9, 2011 4:15 PM (in response to JEShort01)" Also with that being the case, I do sense that a P67 based system would be a fine choice for PPro CS5 even with a dedicated controller card."
Thanks for busting that myth. Especially considering that the P67 has twice the PCIx bandwidth as the P55, ie x8 on the H67/P67 is equal to x16 on the P55.
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11. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
qseep Mar 9, 2011 4:41 PM (in response to JEShort01)One other point: At least one P67 board, the Asus P8P67 WS Revolution, has an Nvidia NF200 chip, which is supposed to allow full 16-lane access two two PCI-E cards simultaneously. So you could still have full bandwidth to both a graphics card and Areca card.
That being said, it does cost $100 more than other boards. None of the other Asus boards have this chip.
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12. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
JEShort01 Mar 10, 2011 7:01 AM (in response to JEShort01)function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}
I used Harm and Bill's PPBM5 benchmark for a P55 motherboard that is similarly crippled to Sandy Bridge (P67) motherboards in that when you add a 2nd PCIe device, slot 1 drops from 16x lanes to 8x lanes....
I contend that the 8x lane for the GPU in this case was clearly NOT a "weakest link" in the system and therefore just not that big of an issue.
...
I do sense that a P67 based system would be a fine choice for PPro CS5 even with a dedicated controller card.
Jim
Sandy Bridge buyers beware that want to start or grow to a system with a dedicated controller card - make sure your PCIe slot for the controller card is at least x8!It seems Asus's lower end P67 boards are only providing x4 lanes for PCIe slot #2 (i.e. Asus P8P67 Rev 3.0 with new B3 revision). Some others however (i.e. Asus P8P67 Deluxe Rev 3.0 with new B3 revision) will provide the x8/x8 split like by P55 Gigabyte board referenced above.
Jim
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13. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
JEShort01 Mar 10, 2011 7:04 AM (in response to JEShort01)Off topic...
Who can guide me to a way to use the "quote box" like I just did without getting the "function()return..." garbage each time?
I am using Win7 64bit IE8, ver. 8.0.7600.16385 as my browser.
Thanks,
Jim
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14. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
Harm Millaard Mar 10, 2011 8:02 AM (in response to JEShort01)Who can guide me to a way to use the "quote box" like I just did without getting the "function()return..." garbage each time?
There are only two possible culprits here: The Jive crap or IE. Jive has given us a lot of grief in the past with this 'feature', but it seems that at least FF and Chrome have overcome the deficiencies of this software, whether IE has, I don't know, but next tuesday IE9 will be available, so maybe your worries are over.
Maybe if Adobe updates/upgrades the Jive monstrosity in the next couple of years, that can help as well. In PR terms, it looks like Adobe is trying to run PR 6.0 while the rest of the world has moved to CS5.
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15. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
JEShort01 Mar 10, 2011 8:26 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)Harm Millaard wrote:
There are only two possible culprits here: The Jive crap or IE. Jive has given us a lot of grief in the past with this 'feature', but it seems that at least FF and Chrome have overcome the deficiencies of this software, whether IE has, I don't know, but next tuesday IE9 will be available, so maybe your worries are over.
Maybe if Adobe updates/upgrades the Jive monstrosity in the next couple of years, that can help as well. In PR terms, it looks like Adobe is
trying to run PR 6.0 while the rest of the world has moved to CS5.
Harm,
Thanks, I just used Firefox for this quote and it came out fine.
Jim
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16. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
RjL190365 May 10, 2011 11:07 PM (in response to SuperCrawler)It's been over two months since this initial post, but I will answer the five questions:
1) First, get a P67 motherboard, not an H67 motherboard! H67 motherboards have serious issues with MPE GPU mode performance.
2) Get at least 8GB - but preferably 16GB - for that platform.
3) and 4) With the relatively low prices these days for 1TB hard drives, I'd recommend a 1TB 7200RPM hard drive as the OS drive and multiple hard drives of 1TB or larger as media/project/output drives. For this platform I'd recommend four additional (and identical) hard drives in addition to the OS drive, and create two 2-disk RAID 0 arrays with the four drives that will not be used for the OS. In addition, I'd purchase at least one external hard drive (eSATA or USB 3.0) for backups.
5) With that i5-2500K, the GTX 470 and five hard drives, get at least a 650W PSU (750W to 850W is better).
And after all of the tuning Harm has recommended, the i5-2500K (despite what Harm had stated earlier) actually performs on a par with a stock-speed i7-920/X58 combo when the 2500K is run at stock speed on a P67 motherboard. The i5-2500 system Harm mentioned had been hobbled by its measly 4GB of RAM and its H67 chipset-based motherboard.
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17. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
Harm Millaard May 11, 2011 8:22 AM (in response to RjL190365)Randall,
The data submission on this i5-2500K @ 200 s. was false and will be removed from the list. It was a bogus submission. Sorry I did not catch that earlier.
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18. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
RjL190365 May 17, 2011 5:04 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Thanks for the update, Harm.
In addition, did that system actually use a different CPU than what was stated (e.g. an i7-2600K and not the i5-2500K)? Or did that system even exist at all? Or did the user of that system tinker with the "Output-MPE.txt" and "Output.txt" files to make it look faster than it actually was? We'll never know until that user re-submits a valid result from that system.
With that said, I might run the PPBM5 benchmark again (using 5.0.3) with HyperThreading disabled and the CPU overclocked to 4.0 or 4.1 GHz (this difference is due to the i7-2600K's extra 2MB of L3 cache over the i5-2500K) to simulate what an i5-2500K overclocked to 4.2 GHz might have performed.
By the way, did you mean the result @ 200 s? Or @ 218 s? (I'm asking this because the result @ 200 s was misstated as an "i7-2500K" when there is no such CPU currently in existence. I think that user more likely submitted two results for that same system inadvertently, and the system whose CPU is misstated as an "i7-2500K" was listed inadvertently - and both results show exactly the same total time. In other words, that result @ 200 s is very likely running an i7-2600K.)
UPDATE: I just saw the tweaked results list. There is still one i5-2500K @ 218 s on that list - but the one @ 200 s is gone (as it should have been).
Message was edited by: RjL190365
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19. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
SuperCrawler May 30, 2011 10:04 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)I'm back (OP).
My conclusion to date is post #1 above :
Harm Millaard wrote:
Steps to take:
1. Press the Overview tab at the top of the hardware forum and start reading.
2. Check out the PPBM5 Benchmark and especially the results pages and Latest News page. Check the i5-2500 system at around rank 207, around 10 times slower than a fast system.
3. Read threads here about system configurations in different budget categories.
It was a lot of reading, steering me to many helpful articles and threads.
Thanks, Harm, for your advice.
I realized that my original budget was too small for what I want, so I decided to be patient and read and learn while working for the extra bucks.
Referring to my post #5 and your post #6 above, thanks for the very helpful article, Adobe Forums: To RAID or not to RAID, that is the... , and for all your other articles that I have read so far.
- I decided that I may want a hardware raid controller in future.
- I decided NOT to go for the i5-2600K.
- From Adobe Forums: Tapeless workflows and Sandy Bridge or... I like the LOVE approach, but I am still confused about why, according to the article, “the Sandy Bridge is unsuitable for anything more than a KISS system.
The i7-2600K looks so nice, what is lacking that makes it unsuitable for anything more than a KISS system? ...
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20. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
TyRip May 30, 2011 11:39 AM (in response to SuperCrawler)A KISS system is something Harm made up. It is far from some sort of specified standard of performance.
Ask around (especially owners of 2600K systems like Randall and the ADK guys) and you'll see that unless you need a huge RAID array for the codec and workflow you require, you will likely be thrilled with a new 2600K system.
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21. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
SuperCrawler May 30, 2011 12:29 PM (in response to TyRip)Thanks, TyRip.
TyRip wrote:
... and you'll see that unless you need a huge RAID array for the codec and workflow you require, you will likely be thrilled with a new 2600K system.What is your definition of a huge RAID array?
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22. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
RjL190365 May 30, 2011 3:09 PM (in response to SuperCrawler)I'm not TyRip, but the current Sandy Bridge CPUs have a limited number of PCI-e lanes. The CPU has only 20 PCIe lanes, of which most LGA 1155 motherboards utilize only 16. The P67 or Z68 PCH adds eight full PCI-e 2.0 lanes - but unfortunately, most motherboards eat up four to six of those for their own onboard devices (some of which are permanently allocated and thus remain unavailable for expansion even if such devices are disabled). This limits potential future performance and expansion although current GPUs, discrete RAID controllers and most I/O cards do not take full advantage of even this limited number of PCI-e lanes, let alone the 36 PCI-e 2.0 lanes on LGA 1366 platforms.
By the way, that system that's ranked well over #200-ish was a stock-speed i5-2500 on an H67 motherboard and only 4GB of RAM. The fastest overclocked i5-2500K system with 16GB of RAM scored a 218-second result - barely faster than the 220-second result from the fastest-performing stock-speed i7-2600K with 16GB of RAM (due in large part to the lack of HyperThreading on the 2500K). A stock-speed i5-2500(K) system, when properly tuned, would have scored roughly at the same level as a stock-speed i7-920 or i7-930 system.
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23. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
TyRip May 30, 2011 5:09 PM (in response to SuperCrawler)I'm not the person to ask specifics of, but check into some of the ADK guys' posts. Basically there is very little a 2600K system with a fast OS disk and 2 RAID-0 arrays can't do - and these guys (ADK) sell systems for profit, so a more expensive rig would equal more money in their pockets but they still suggest a 2600K and 2 RAID0.
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24. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
ronscuba May 31, 2011 8:31 PM (in response to TyRip)Reading the various boards and also noticed posts from ADK recommending systems not just on performance, but also on value for the $$. You have to appreciate things like that.
I decided to go turnkey because with technology changing so fast, it is difficult to keep up with what works best for video specific applications like Premiere. ADK is building my system right now. Hope it meets all my expectations.
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25. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
SuperCrawler Jun 1, 2011 6:44 AM (in response to ronscuba)ronscuba wrote:
Reading the various boards and also noticed posts from ADK recommending systems not just on performance, but also on value for the $$.
Thanks. Please post me a link/links of posts from ADK recommending systems as you describe.
ronscuba wrote:
ADK is building my system right now. Hope it meets all my expectations.Which mobo are you getting?
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26. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
SuperCrawler Jun 1, 2011 9:31 AM (in response to TyRip)TyRip wrote:
..., you will likely be thrilled with a new 2600K system.
Thanks TyRip!
X-bit labatories recently compared the recently launched, most expensive processor in the market, the 1000-dollar six-core Core i7-990X Extreme Edition, vs. the four-core Core i7-2600K, while the latter's price is three times lower.
The results certainly make the Sandy Bridge i7-2600K very appealing to me :
Core i7-990X Extreme Edition vs. Core i7-2600K.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x.html
Their Conclusion:
Page 13
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x_13.html#sect0
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27. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
SuperCrawler Jun 1, 2011 8:14 AM (in response to RjL190365)RjL190365,
Thanks for your advice in post #16 above.
I notice that you posted it on May 11, 2011, the date on which Intel released Chipset Z68, today exactly three weeks ago.
Fully-Fledged LGA1155 Platform: Intel Z68 Express Chipset Review:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-p8z68v-pro.html
Referring to your post #22 above:
Thanks.
RjL190365 wrote:
the current Sandy Bridge CPUs have a limited number of PCI-e lanes. The CPU has only 20 PCIe lanes, of which most LGA 1155 motherboards utilize only 16. The P67 or Z68 PCH adds eight full PCI-e 2.0 lanes - but unfortunately, most motherboards eat up four to six of those for their own onboard devices (some of which are permanently allocated and thus remain unavailable for expansion even if such devices are disabled). This limits potential future performance and expansion although current GPUs, discrete RAID controllers and most I/O cards do not take full advantage of even this limited number of PCI-e lanes, let alone the 36 PCI-e 2.0 lanes on LGA 1366 platforms.
I am looking at the i7-2600K.
Would I be able to use RAID 3 or RAID 3+0 with the Z68, and if so, would there be a limited number of PCIe lanes causing performance drop?
Referring to Harm Millaard's post #4 above:
Harm Millaard wrote:
Basically, if you never need a hardware raid controller, the 2600K and its P68
platform is very nice. If you need a hardware raid ontroller, accept
that you have to use the video card at half speed.Does this apply to the Z68 platform if I need a hardware raid controller?
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28. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
ronscuba Jun 1, 2011 8:57 AM (in response to SuperCrawler)If you do a search for ADK on this board and Dvinfo.net, you'll find their posts.
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29. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
SuperCrawler Jun 1, 2011 9:28 AM (in response to ronscuba)Found them. Thanks.
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30. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
Harm Millaard Jun 1, 2011 9:45 AM (in response to SuperCrawler)Does this apply to the Z68 platform if I need a hardware raid controller?
Yes. If you are in doubt whether you need a hardware raid controller, wait for the X79 mobo's, although the first models are limited to only 4 DIMM slots. They are significantly better than any 68 based mobo, because they have 40 PCIe-3 lanes instead of 20 PCIe-2 lanes (double the lanes and double the speed), they support quad channel memory instead of dual channel, and they support the Sandy Bridge E with octo core chips plus HT and somewhere around 18 - 20 MB L3 cache versus quad core i7-2600K with only 6 MB L3 cache maximum.
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31. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
jszei Jun 1, 2011 12:57 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Harm, what site(s) do you read to learn about hardware futures like the X79?
Quad DDR, 40 PCIe 3 lanes, octo-core chips with 20MB cache is making me drool.
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32. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
Harm Millaard Jun 1, 2011 2:59 PM (in response to jszei)Much of the info I get originates at tweakers.net mostly, with links to other sites and forums. Unfortunately for most of you it is in Dutch.
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33. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
Scott Chichelli Jun 1, 2011 4:03 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)everything i am getting from sources (which isnt much lately,
Intel is rather hush hush about new releases the last 6 months)
is that the quad memory is dual Xeon only.. again this is pure speculation based on the very little info and web searching.
i hope i am wrong.
Scott
ADK
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34. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
jszei Jun 1, 2011 6:37 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Thanks Harm. Google Chrome translates webpages nicely so I can read that site with little difficulty.
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35. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
SuperCrawler Jun 3, 2011 7:23 AM (in response to jszei)Some four day young news from Monday 31 May 2011, on
X79 Motherboards
(On show at Computex Taipei until tomorrow 4 June.)
GA-X79A-UD3 :
X79R-A :
ASRock Extreme4 X79, GIGABYTE GA-X79A-UD3, ASUS C1X79 Evo, Foxconn Quantum Force X79, ECS X79R-A :
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36. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
SuperCrawler Jun 5, 2011 11:51 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)Harm Millaard wrote:
If you are in doubt whether you need a hardware raid controller, wait for the X79 mobo's, although the first models are limited to only 4 DIMM slots. They are significantly better than any 68 based mobo, because they have 40 PCIe-3 lanes instead of 20 PCIe-2 lanes (double the lanes and double the speed), they support quad channel memory instead of dual channel, and they support the Sandy Bridge E with octo core chips plus HT and somewhere around 18 - 20 MB L3 cache versus quad core i7-2600K with only 6 MB L3 cache maximum.
Thanks for making me aware of the X79 motherboards that were on show the past week.
I read that RAID 3+0 generally requires a high-end hardware controller.
In your article Adobe Forums: To RAID or not to RAID, that is the... of Nov 16, 2009, you wrote “the drawback is that it [RAID 3] requires a hardware controller from Areca.”
Would one be able to use RAID 3 or RAID 3+0 with X79 motherboards' onboard raid controllers, and if so,
what would be the maximum number of disks one could have with them and
are their onboard raid controllers on par with Areca?
If using a large raid array, will the video card run at full speed?
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37. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
Harm Millaard Jun 5, 2011 12:08 PM (in response to SuperCrawler)Would one be able to use RAID 3 or RAID 3+0 with X79 motherboards' onboard raid controllers, and if so,
what would be the maximum number of disks one could have with them and
are their onboard raid controllers on par with Areca?
No, no. On-board raid controllers only support raid 0, 1, 5 and 10 and then raid5 only in slomo mode.
Maximum number of disks with on-board controllers is limited by the number of available SATA ports. Say you have 8 SATA ports, 2 of which are used by BR burners, that leaves you 6 available ports. One more is used by the boot disk, so you are left with a maximum of 5 disks in raid0 or 4 in raid10, etc.
On a dedicated raid controller it is simple to have 24 disks in a raid array. Already dreaming about my next system, I envisage a setup like this (funds permitting):
C: 2 x Kingston Hyper-X SSD 120 GB in raid0
D: 4 x 2000 GB Hitachi 7K.3000 in raid0 for temp storage
E: 16 x 2000 GB Hitachi 7K.3000 in raid30 with 2 hot-spares
F: 4 x 2000 GB Hitachi 7K.3000 in raid5/10 for exports
NAS for dual backup, locally and over VPN to a second NAS on a different location.
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38. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
SuperCrawler Jun 5, 2011 3:16 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Thanks for explaining it clearly, and for sharing what you are contemplating as your next setup.
If I had a mobo with an on-board raid controller, and with 8 SATA ports, 2 of which are used by BR burners and one which is used by the boot disk, and I added a hardware controller for RAID 3 or RAID 3+0,
what purpose could
the remaining five SATA ports and
the on-board raid controller serve me?
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39. Re: Not rich enough to afford wrong choices. Help me choose components to build a system for CS5.
Harm Millaard Jun 5, 2011 9:15 PM (in response to SuperCrawler)None if the raid controller has sufficient ports.





