Yeah, what's up with Adobe on this?
Arabic, Hebrew, Yiddish... all of them are out of the game with CS4 and CS5...
I've read that the new "Adobe Type Engine" doesn't support right-to-left text...
It's apparently possible to paste right-to-left text from CS3 into CS4/5, as per this article:
Unfortunately, you won't be able to type RTL in.
Wonder what the thinking was on the Adobe side on this?
As far as I know, Fireworks CS4 and CS5 cannot support R-to-L text because of some limitations in Adobe Type Engine integrated (Fireworks CS3 and older used Macromedia engine, and Macromedia engine had this option). I do not know if Fireworks CSNext would add support for R-to-L...
For now, only copy-paste from older version of Fw into CS4/CS5 is possible. Sorry....
Thats a real pity. a big step backwards.
i have heard that the ME (middle East) version may allow this to be done, would live if someone from Adobe could confirm this or not.
Fireworks is the same everywhere, I believe.
Unless Adobe wants to integrate again R-to-L support in Fireworks CSNext, I don't see how this could happen... :-/
You may want to contact Adobe Fireworks Team directly: adobe.ly/FWwish
Hope they would listen!
Interesting. I thought this is possible from Fw CS3 and older only, copy > paste into Fw CS4/5?...
Still, this is workaround, not true solution. I also suppose that if you edit the pasted text, it will instantly revert back to left-to-right?...
The solution is to use an operating system configured for the language you want to use. The problem isn't a Fireworks one, but a language settings one.
I think Fw CS3 and older could easily allow user to type Left-to-Right and Right-to-Left text, right inside Fireworks, no matter the OS and OS settings?...
Since Fw CS4, this is no longer possible in Fireworks... Or maybe I am missing somehting...
thanks for the reply, though what you said seems incorrect.
first of all, pasting into CS4, from any Hebrew RTL text - still appears LTR in CS4., ie 4321 still appears as 1234
also, the writing of Hebrew is possible in FW, because as you said, the OS is Hebrew enabled, but as Michel pointed out - it still does not solve the orientation issue, which is not addressed by the OS.
I frankly wouldn't recognize if it was pasted in correctly or not. :-) What are you using the text for? If it's buttons or a few characters you will be exporting as images, it shouldn't be too much trouble to type the characters in reverse order. If you are typing paragraphs, you should be doing that in HTML in Dreamweaver instead of Fireworks. You can try adding the text to an HTML slice in Fireworks with the following style
If you have access to Illustrator or InDesign, there's a plugin you might like to try.
I've been using Fireworks since Macromedia's version 2, and double byte or left to right text has always a problem. Check the archives and you'll see that this question has been coming up for years. You can change alignment from right to left, but not reverse the order of characters.
it's definitely not paragraphs - those go straight in DW.
it's for graphic headers, buttons etc - typing it in backwards takes me back to the Internet Ice Age of the 90's up to around 2001 where all Hebrew had to be flipped (or typed in backwards) in order to be displayed properly.
There are work-arounds as you suggest. They are all a pain in the *** and will double my work flow.
But the point is that Adobe removed a feature that was a core feature for me and many others - that had existed in CS3
and they're now forcing us to find wonky solutions for something which should be second nature in our day and age.
The way it seems now, is that there will be an HTML6 or CSS4 element of RTL oriented text before Adobe bring this feature back in....
Can you upload an image of how you do this in CS3? I have used every version of Fireworks since 2, and you are describing a feature I never knew existed. :-)
Hmm, here at work I have CS5 only but as far as I remebver, in the PI panel in Fw CS3, 8, MX2004, MX, etc, there was a small button and it allowed user to switch from left to right to right to left text quite easily. Then r-to-l was removed from the list, in CS4.
Button is still there in CS5, next to [b] [i] [u] [here it is]. From 4 (originally, in CS3 and earlier) options available, only two remain now... R-to-L is not there.
Yes, I recall that button as well. Got knocked out when FW adopted the Adobe Font Engine.
Ah ha. I guess you'll have to get used to typing in reverse order. ;-)
I wish they had stuck with the original text engine...
Anyone know how to contact someone on the Fireworks team?
(yes, i have already submitted my wishlist )
Only official contact I know:
Actually, as far as I know, request to bring back R-to-L text option has been filed internally, but so far seems that Fw Team is a bit under-powered so this option could not be implemented during CS4/CS5 cycles. For CS6 cycle, you just use the Adobe Wishform and hope for the best!
well, my wish list submission for a CS4 fix, or a CS5 return of the feature didnt help, so i cant think that my recent submission will help for CS6 either... but who knows.