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2. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
Colin Brougham Apr 16, 2011 1:51 PM (in response to OrlandoJetset)There is no problem importing or editing 1080p60--AVCHD or otherwise--in CS5. I don't see why this would change for better or worse in CS5.5.
The issue that is most often referenced in relation to this footage is that there isn't a Bluray or other HD broadcast spec that supports this format. You can export to a web or local playback file, or you could down-res to 720p60 for BD.
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3. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
JSS1138 Apr 17, 2011 9:01 AM (in response to OrlandoJetset)Native AVCHD support
You have to remember that while 1080p/60 does use the same H.264 codec, it is not a part of the AVCHD specification.
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4. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
h2ofun Apr 18, 2011 8:09 AM (in response to OrlandoJetset)Yep, the question is not about PP since you can get it to deal with 60p with Cs5. The question is Encore. Will it add one more output
format, which is the avchd 60p. Yep, this is not BR. But, there are now BR players, settop boxes, and computers that will play this.
There is even one authoring program out there that outputs the format with menus. So, has Encore been updated in CS5.5?
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5. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
Todd_Kopriva Apr 18, 2011 8:42 AM (in response to h2ofun)> So, has Encore been updated in CS5.5?
Bug fixes, but no new features.
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6. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
John T Smith Apr 18, 2011 9:08 AM (in response to h2ofun)>avchd 60p. Yep, this is not BR
Adobe licenses the actual disc burning "core" from Roxio, so Encore is only able to author what Roxio allows (I don't work for Adobe, so details of this may not be 100% correct)
Until Roxio updates their "burning engine modules" Encore will not add anything new... and will also stay 32bit until Roxio rewrites their modules to be 64bit
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7. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
japeh123 Apr 18, 2011 1:06 PM (in response to Colin Brougham)How do we get the best results with 1080/60p clips? Within Premiere use a sequence format of 1080/30p, or 1080/60i or something else?
When burning to blu-ray, is it better to go 720p60 or use 108060i since 1080p30 is not available.?
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8. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
Colin Brougham Apr 18, 2011 1:14 PM (in response to japeh123)use a sequence format of 1080/30p, or 1080/60i or something else?
Something else: 1080p60. It may not be a broadcast or delivery spec, but Premiere can create a sequence using those parameters. The easiest way to do so is to simply drag a clip down to the New Item button at the bottom of the Project Panel. This will create a sequence that matches your clip parameters and place the clip into it. You can add your other clips as needed then.
Personally, I'd go 720p60 on BD, instead of 1080i60; I think it's better to match your frame rate and cadence instead of trying to match the raster and introduce interlacing. The 1080p60 material should generate some pretty nice 720p60 content.
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9. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
japeh123 Apr 18, 2011 1:33 PM (in response to Colin Brougham)Thanks. I will do that to create the sequence in Premiere.
As for burning 720p60 on Blu-Ray, it seems a shame to start with 1920x1080 clips and end up with only 1280x720 on the screen.
But you are probably right to avoid interlaced material.
But will a disk burned at 1080/60i really be interlaced since both fields will have been recorded at the same instant of time when using 1080p60 clips to start with? Especially with recent 240 Hz TV using some form of frame interpolation.
I guess one can but try and judge with his eyes.
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10. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
JSS1138 Apr 18, 2011 2:36 PM (in response to japeh123)it seems a shame to start with 1920x1080 clips and end up with only 1280x720 on the screen.
That's one reason why you should consider your delivery method before shooting. If you know your going out to BD, then don't shoot in 1080p/60. Use the acceptable 1080i/30 or 720p/60. That way nothing needs conversion.
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11. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
OrlandoJetset Apr 18, 2011 2:48 PM (in response to JSS1138)JSS1138 wrote:
it seems a shame to start with 1920x1080 clips and end up with only 1280x720 on the screen.
That's one reason why you should consider your delivery method before shooting. If you know your going out to BD, then don't shoot in 1080p/60. Use the acceptable 1080i/30 or 720p/60. That way nothing needs conversion.
True....but I'd still suggest you shoot 1080/60p so that you've got all your bases covered in case you decide to repurpose your content to other forms of delivery. (For example, if you want to deliver to the web in addition to BluRay.) Its a good idea to have the highest quality source footage just in case...in my opinion.
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12. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
JSS1138 Apr 18, 2011 2:51 PM (in response to OrlandoJetset)The web is fully capable of displaying both 1080i30 and 720p/60. Chances are most people won't be able to tell the difference between them, especially on a monitor the size most computers use.
1080p/60 really is a problem format that should be used only rarely and with plenty of forethought about the repercussions of doing so.
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13. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
OrlandoJetset Apr 18, 2011 2:55 PM (in response to JSS1138)JSS1138 wrote:
The web is fully capable of displaying both 1080i30 and 720p/60. Chances are most people won't be able to tell the difference between them, especially on a monitor the size most computers use.
1080p/60 really is a problem format that should be used only rarely and with plenty of forethought about the repercussions of doing so.
Are you saying the web cant display 1080p/60 ?
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14. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
JSS1138 Apr 18, 2011 2:59 PM (in response to OrlandoJetset)No, I'm saying it's very likely no one will notice the difference between 720p/60, 1080i/30 and 1080p/60 on a 20" monitor. So if you know you'll be doing a BD export, shoot what's supported. Anything extra from the 1080p/60 will be lost on anything less than a 50" display. Not may people view the web on such a large display.
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15. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
MobyTrix Apr 25, 2011 11:29 AM (in response to Todd_Kopriva)Todd_Kopriva wrote:
> So, has Encore been updated in CS5.5?
Bug fixes, but no new features.
Is there a list of the bug fixes in the 5.5 version of Encore? I'd like to read them to decide if I need to upgrade (I have run into a TON of bugs in 5.0 Encore).
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16. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
MobyTrix Apr 25, 2011 11:33 AM (in response to japeh123)japeh123 wrote:
When burning to blu-ray, is it better to go 720p60 or use 108060i since 1080p30 is not available.?
That depends on your source footage and target audience. If your source doesn't have a lot of motion in it, and/or your target audience is people viewing it on their computer or people who will be resizing the footage and uploading it to the web, then 1080p30. If your footage has a lot of motion in it, or your target audience is broadcast, then 1080i30. If you need to meet all targets (motion + computer viewing + manipulating the footage) then 720p60.
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17. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
Todd_Kopriva Apr 25, 2011 11:34 AM (in response to MobyTrix)> Is there a list of the bug fixes in the 5.5 version of Encore?
I'll see if I can get one. It may take a while.
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18. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
tclark513 Apr 25, 2011 12:10 PM (in response to Todd_Kopriva)function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}
Todd_Kopriva wrote:
> Is there a list of the bug fixes in the 5.5 version of Encore?
I'll see if I can get one. It may take a while.
Bug fixes for Premiere CS5.5 would be great too.
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19. Re: Will Premiere Pro CS5.5 resolve the problem of editing Panasonic 1080/60p footage?
MobyTrix Apr 25, 2011 3:56 PM (in response to Todd_Kopriva)Todd_Kopriva wrote:
> Is there a list of the bug fixes in the 5.5 version of Encore?
I'll see if I can get one. It may take a while.
If it's any incentive: If any of my submitted big fixes appear in the list, you'll earn a sale.
I am willfully ignoring the irony of that last statement. I want fixes.





