You can not save a BluRay file to a hard drive in Premiere Elements, Ron.
To create a BluRay disc, go to Share/To Disc/BluRay. This is the only hi-def format that will play on your TV's disc player.
I probably didn't explain all that well. I can do as you have said, however
I wanted to save the project as a high definition file, put it on a portable
hard drive and play it on my TV.
The problem is this; It will save a file that will play on my computer as a
high definition file. When I transfer that file to hard drive it will play
back on my computer but not on the TV. I think perhaps I will need to
convert it, I have a converter program but it also does not recognise the
file. It is 'Iskysoft'
Share/computer/mpeg2 pal - saved as a file ok - but only works on computer
Thanks for your help, at least I know I can save it, just need to work out
how to convert it.
Unless your TV/player can read AV files, the way to do what you want would be to burn the BD, which will create the necessary folder structure, with the necessary files inside. Then, Copy that root folder to the external HDD. The potential problem will be "pointing" the TV to that folder on the external.
Which TV do you have?
What are its capabilities?
Most TV's require some sort of player. This could be a camera, hooked to the TV with component cables, or it could be a "media center," or it could be a portable BD player. However, some are getting pretty sophisticated, so I am not about to say that it cannot be done, until we know the TV, and what it is capable of doing.
It is a Samsung HD 3D recent model, it reads off portable hard drives and
plays most files, AVI, MKV, and a great list of others. It does not
recognise M2t or M2v so I guess converting the file may be the way to go.
I successfully created an AVCHD file M2t which I downloaded onto a portable
HD, this played ok on my computer using windows media player but the TV
doesn't see it at all. I tried changing to PAL (which is the standard for
Australia) and this gave me a video clip M2v, same result.
I tried converting using 'Iskysoft' video converter but that didn't
recognise the M2t either. I don't know how to point to the folder other than
changing the file ending.
Are you playing the file on your computer and playing it on your TV? If so, all you need is an HDMI attachment and a computer graphics card that supports HDMI output.
How are you attaching your computer (or your player) to your TV?
Or better yet, what are you ultimately trying to create -- playing on what kind of player and displayed on what type of viewer? There may be a more efficient way to do this.
It may not be worth all this extra effort though. You won't get better playback on your TV than you will with a BluRay disc.
No, I don't have a blue ray burner - yet! I also have an iMac that allows
burning BD onto standard or dual layer DVD and which plays in my PS3 which
is blue ray and backward compatible (connected with HDMI)
The iMac burns BD extremely well but has a poor DVD output. I also have a
pretty good Windows computer and have a reasonable handle on 'Premier'
My TV is a recent model Samsung HD 3D with USB connections. I can play
movies and files via portable hard drives with most codecs, including AVI,
MKV etc. Premier Elements 9 outputs an AVCHS M2t which saves to the HD and
plays brilliantly on the computer, however the TV doesn't recognise the file
(nor the Movie Clip M2v)
I have tried to convert to another file using 'Iskysoft converter' but it
also doesn't recognise the M2t M2v codecs. All I want to do is save the HD
clips/project to the portable HD in a format that will play them on the TV,
if that is possible. If not I guess I will have to buy a blue ray burner.
It's just that burning discs seems pretty unnecessary if one can save to HD
(other than making a disc for someone who doesn't have newer technology) I
do find DVD pretty ordinary after BD and MKV quality on a 1920x1080 screen
Thanks for this reply, sorry I took so long to respond to your kind email
but I am in Australia
Does the TV see DivX files, usually in an AVI "wrapper?"
If so, I would choose Microsoft AVI, and then DivX as the CODEC. Though heavily compressed, DivX was designed for streaming media, which is what you are doing.
Also, and for future refecrence, AVI is but a wrapper, and can contain all sorts of "stuff," just like MOV, and WMV. MKV is both a format and a CODEC. This ARTICLE will give you a bit of background.
Good luck, and let us know if the TV can play DivX files.
Yes, the TV reads DivX. I downloaded the DivX codecs but the result of
changing the codec within Elements was very poor. What did work however was
making the M2t file and converting it to MKV with the DivX converter, using
the 1080p conversion was better than the 1080. Once converted I transferred
it to hard drive and it played very well. I had to download the DivX codec
package to get the codec up on the list after choosing AVI. It was a very
poor quality but I may have done something wrong. Looks like I will buy the
converter once I run a few tests.
Great news Ron!
Thanks for reporting your success. That will likely help others in the future.
Just ran a few more tests and am very happy with the quality. The original
AVCHD M2t was 1440x1080 and the conversion is the same, looks great on my
TV. I can save a copy of the original M2t and burn to BD or play on or via
my computer, I can also convert a copy into an DivX folder to transfer onto
a HDD. Cost of the DivX full program was just under $33. AUD
Thanks for steering me in the right direction, hope I may have helped
someone else on my first post.
As the various "media center" devices become more common, and TV's are able to ingest more material, we will all be learning, and your tests will prove useful to all of us, and to folk, who are new to the forum.
Thank you for your efforts, patience and the reports.
you are very welcome. I am about to turn 66 and have endured countless hours
of frustration with problems such as this. Finding the solutions is
challenging, that's for sure but the occasional breakthrough feels good.
Hopefully the manufacturers of some of these products can build in the
codecs so that one doesn't have to use plug in's and other products do
achieve a simple thing such as this should have been.
Bye for now, we may be in contact again at the next hurdle!
I try my best to learn something new each day, to at least keep the gray matter exercised.
PS - as more "media center" type solutions come about, I think that we'll see a broader range of footage, that works. Keeping up on it, can be a bit daunting.
When you say 'Hard Drive' is this a simple portable computer drive with a USB connection to the TV or a hard drive HD video recorder feeding HDMI to the TV?
If the latter, there is a noticable loss in quality compared with the original AVCHD due to the excess compression to fit all the video on the disk.(using a 1900x1080 Sony camera)
I had a similar problem playing a PE9 burnt disk on a TV/BD player although it would play in my computer and some other brands of players. Turned out to be an incompatability in disk folder names in PE9. So I produced the m2ts file in PE9 and used another program to burn the disk.
You might be sorry you didn't buy a BD burner when your hard drive fails and all your precious memories are lost!
A LG 8x burner costs about $110 from umart.com.au (Only problem is the 4x BD disks are considerably cheaper)
Yes, a simple USB +2 (Western Digital Elements SE) Maxtor or Axioo etc.
The saved file M2t, native to Premier Elements 9 plays on computer on
Windows Media Player, the quality is outstanding. It's just that my TV
doesn't recognise that file so I had to convert it to MKV using DivX. This
now plays on my TV, whilst the file size is the same as M2t = 1440 X 1080
the quality is excellent, in fact exactly the same as it would be burned to
a BD disk.
It is interesting that even the BD disk had some compatibility issues.
In order to lose my precious memories and be sorry, my main drive with the
M2t file along with the converted DivX would have to fail and so would the
drive I use to view it on as well as my backup drive. If anything I tend to
overdo the backup thing. Also I never clear my camera until I have a couple
of backups of the important stuff.
Having said that I appreciate your info on the burner as I thought they were
much more expensive. Does anyone think that burned discs will be phased out
by the increased ease in which movies, projects and info can be stored on
hard drives. It seems less time and resource intensive to save to HD than
burn to disc and it also seems 'chalk and cheese' between DVD and BD
I thought it might be worth a bit of an update on PE9 burning issues; In
order to copy a playable version of the high quality video on HD, I
eventually tried burning by going to the Share/ burn on this computer; then
I selected the bottom selection in the drop down list which is a full 1920 X
1080 M2t file (unlike the last two I tried which were 1440 X 1080 and 1440 X
1080p) I also made sure I selected the default (PLUS HD) profile in the DivX
converter. I was able to save a full 1920 X 1080 M2t file and convert that
to a full 1920 X 1080 mkv, which saves and plays on virtually everything.
Both the M2t and the converted DivX can be burned to Blue Ray also.
Thanks to Ted, I purchased a BD burner.