10 Replies Latest reply: Nov 6, 2014 9:09 AM by tlmurray23 RSS

    FrameMaker Compatible with Mac in Future?

    Bonnie Scheckner Community Member

      Is anyone aware if future versions of FrameMaker will ever be compatible with a Mac? I used to work on a Windows computer, and I really enjoyed using FrameMaker to create Install/User Manuals. I work on a Mac now, and I am just wondering if it will ever be available with a Mac.

       

      Thanks!

        • 1. Re: FrameMaker Compatible with Mac in Future?
          peter at knowhowpro Community Member

          Bonnie Scheckner wrote:

           

          Is anyone aware if future versions of FrameMaker will ever be compatible with a Mac? I used to work on a Windows computer, and I really enjoyed using FrameMaker to create Install/User Manuals. I work on a Mac now, and I am just wondering if it will ever be available with a Mac.

           

          Thanks!

          You can use VMware Fusion, Parallels, or BootCamp to run Windows on Mac and run FrameMaker in Windows. Search Google for terms like "framemaker mac fusion parallels" without quotes for lots of resources. The more RAM on your Mac, the better.

           

          Search Google for terms like "FrameMaker mac version" without quotes for lots of historical posts on the topic. There's a site or group somewhere that keeps up the hope, remote though it may be.

           

          Some people have moved to InDesign. Search Google for terms like "FrameMaker or InDesign?" without quotes and similar terms, for historical discussions.

           

          HTH

           

          Regards,

           

          Peter

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          • 2. Re: FrameMaker Compatible with Mac in Future?
            Bonnie Scheckner Community Member

            Thank you for your response peter at knowhowpro. I know it is possible to run FrameMaker from Windows on a Mac, but specifically I was wondering if there are any plans to make future versions of FrameMaker compatible with a Mac. Your response is still quite helpful. I may have to switch to InDesign. Thank you!

            • 3. Re: FrameMaker Compatible with Mac in Future?
              peter at knowhowpro Community Member

              Bonnie Scheckner wrote:

               

              Thank you for your response peter at knowhowpro. I know it is possible to run FrameMaker from Windows on a Mac, but specifically I was wondering if there are any plans to make future versions of FrameMaker compatible with a Mac. Your response is still quite helpful. I may have to switch to InDesign. Thank you!

              You're welcome, Bonnie.

               

              You're pointing out that I didn't REALLY answer your question, because I didn't say something like, "If there are plans, anybody who knows can't tell, as they'd be committed to a non-disclosure agreement (NDA) and violating the agreement would cause the person to lose all participation in any Adobe NDA thereafter."

               

              I answered obliquely by suggesting a Google search for past discussions on the issue, as there are many reasons for why Adobe probably wouldn't even consider the task, as well as suggestions of how easy, theoretically, it would be for Adobe to tweak a few things, and magically have FrameMaker for Mac.

               

              Except for the cost of Windows (if using the free Apple BootCamp) or the additional cost of Parallels or Fusion, and perhaps adding RAM, FrameMaker in Windows on Mac is almost a perfect reproduction of FrameMaker in Windows on a PC.

               

              I'm writing a book on InDesign for FrameMaker users. Try the Google search I suggested for views, experiences, and opinions from those who've thought about this move, as well as those who/ve taken the step across the line. If you do make the move, post your questions and discoveries on the InDesign user forum.    

               

              HTH

               

              Regards,

               

              Peter

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              Peter Gold

              KnowHow ProServices

              • 4. Re: FrameMaker Compatible with Mac in Future?
                Dov Isaacs Employee Hosts

                On behalf of Adobe ...

                 

                There are absolutely no current plans to reinstate a MacOS native version of FrameMaker.

                 

                          - Dov

                • 5. Re: FrameMaker Compatible with Mac in Future?
                  Don Montalvo Community Member

                  It runs quite well in VMWare Fusion and Parallels.

                   

                  Don

                  • 6. Re: FrameMaker Compatible with Mac in Future?
                    tongsau Community Member

                    We are still upset over this! Good to bring up old wounds . I can't even use new Adobe products on Vista. Adobe has no touch in reality of it's user base that actually use their software for real purposes.

                     

                    What's up Dov!!!!!

                    • 7. Re: FrameMaker Compatible with Mac in Future?
                      Dov Isaacs Employee Hosts

                      “tongsau,”

                       

                      Your posting was forwarded to me since I don't follow this forum regularly. My response from two years ago still stands. There still are absolutely no current plans to reinstate a MacOS native version of FrameMaker.

                       

                                - Dov

                      • 8. Re: FrameMaker Compatible with Mac in Future?
                        livinglegacyjoy Community Member

                        Bonnie,

                        Did you make the switch to InDesign?  I am really at a loss what to do.  I am currently using Pages but it is NOT stable and has no index feature.  I miss FrameMaker but I am wedded to using a Mac.  I have used Parallels and VMFusion.  I don't want to go down that path again.  I am looking for a stable, robust application to write long technical documents for a software user guide.  Have you learned anything that may help me in my search? 

                         

                        BTW... I called Adobe.  At first I was told that I could subscribe at a monthly cost to get FM for mac.  Knowing that was probabally  bad information, I asked the Adobe sales person to transfer me to someone who could explain how the monthy fee worked.  After waiting 30 minutes on hold, I was then talking to another person that I could barely understand.  He correctly stated that while they do offer FM at a subscriptoin rate, they do NOT have a Mac version.  Sad that Adobe gave up on Mac users. 

                        • 9. Re: FrameMaker Compatible with Mac in Future?
                          peter at knowhowpro Community Member

                          Please see my earlier posts on this thread.

                           

                          If you had bad experiences with Fusion or Parallels on your Mac, one possibility is that it doesn't have sufficient RAM and perhaps speed/power for the task. As FrameMaker, Windows, and Fusion or Parallels have advanced, they may have outgrown your Mac's resources.

                           

                          You might want to start a new thread with a subject that asks for responses for users who've had good or bad experiences with FrameMaker on Mac with a virtual machine. Those users' stories might help you evaluate how to proceed.

                           

                          There are some InDesign users who use Macs with Fusion or Parallels and who use the version of InDesign for Mac OS X, and the version for Windows, and swtich between them. You might want to post a similar request for users' stories about using Fusion or Parallels with InDesign's resource requirements.

                           

                             Although InDesign has improved its long-document tools greatly, some strikes aginst moving to it include learning to use it in the specific ways to emulate your FrameMaker workflowl, the cost and resources needed to train others in your workgroup, as well as costs to convert existing FrameMaker documents.

                          • 10. Re: FrameMaker Compatible with Mac in Future?
                            tlmurray23 Community Member

                            Dropping it for the Mac has never made sense to me, for three reasons. First is that during development of many applications, much time and resources are spent deciding what the app is to do, how the UI is presented, what the file format should look like, etc.: The actual time spent sitting at the keyboard getting it done is not the typical money pit. These things are already decided; indeed, soon after 7.x for Mac was killed off, I was approached by a couple of programmers from Europe who wanted to buy the Mac code or at least the approval to go ahead, and they'd have it ready for beta in two or three months. They also guaranteed it would be useable on *nix platforms and its native file format would be compatible with Windows. However, in the end, they were rebuffed by Adobe.

                             

                            Second is that at $30 a month for a subscription or $1000 to buy it, paying for said development is well within reason. If (say) three people made a whopping $50,000 each month for six months, that's $900,000 . . . or a 900 licenses, and that's paying at an exorbitant rate. A realistic pay rate would be far cheaper.

                             

                            Third is that it ignores that Mac's increasing presence in the computing world and the scientific world in particular, where one sees lots of Macs and where scientists rather prefer FrameMaker (or at least they used to, before they were forced away).

                             

                            Look, I like InDesign, but it has certain characteristics that don't lend itself to the type of publishing for which FrameMaker is more well-suited.