Gary from Videoguys and myself are on the same line. We both feel about the same about configurations that one would like for a good NLE.
Have a look here:
Videoguys Blog - Videoguys DIY8 Hex Core
Videoguys Blog - DIY Update: Sandy Bridge Not Recommended by Videoguys
Adobe Forums: System requirements for Premiere Pro CS5
Adobe Forums: Tapeless workflows and Sandy Bridge or...
This will give you a load of information.
There are lots of threads here with very specific build lists, but for your goal and price point I'll start off with some "budgetary" guidelines of what I would suggest to meet your goals:
Case (approx $100); you will want a mid or full tower with good cooling; some are more closed in and quieter, some are more open and have better air flow
Power supply (approx $175); that should get you around 850 watts from a reputable manufacturer
OS ($0); you already have
video card; NVidia GTX ??? (approx. $150); make sure you get at least GTX 460 with at least 1MB RAM
CPU: Intel Sandy Bridge it-2600k; runs very fast without overclocking (approx $270)
Motherboard: Gigabyte or Asus (approx $180)
RAM: 16GB (approx $200)
CPU cooler: can use stock
boot drive: 7200rpm ($40); or you may want to reuse your 10k
data drives: 4 1TB 7200rpm drives (approx $240 for WD, hitachi, or Samsung drives NOT latest generation)
Blu-ray burner: LG (approx $110)
Total: (approx. $1465)
Regarding your specific questions:
- what video, processor, motherboard - answered CPU already, search forum for lots of specifics regarding video and MB
- separate RAID - no, not at this price point; that adds a LOT of $$$
- how configure drives - 1-boot, 2x1TB RAID0, 2x1TB RAID0 (see Harm's really useful thread for details on drive setup for CS5); you will still need to address backing up and I did not cover that in the above list
Note that I read, "edit all formats", to mean edit all formats including AVCHD HD, but not 4K Red.
I like to draw your attention to the PPBM5 scores in the range 260 - 300 seconds, you will see a number of non-overclocked 2600K and numerous 920/930/950 systems all at stock speed. Second read Gary's blog, not endorsing the 2600K.
Budget wise and from an expansion POV, the X58 and 9xx is still the better option.
As Harm points out, a X58 system could provide more expandibility. If you go that route, get one with 2 or 3 PCIe high-speed slots and increase the RAM to 24GB (approx. $100 more cost, cpu and motherboard would cost about the same). The hex-core X58 cpus go for $600 and up, so I had figured those to be above your price point.
Regarding PPBM5 performance, Randall tested his own seemingly similar equipped i7-950 and i7-2600k systems, and the i7-2600k was more than 10 percent faster (220 seconds vs 247 seconds).
Yes, the two systems in question are identical in every way except for the CPU and motherboard. And the difference in overall performance between the two is largely due to the differences in the stock clock speeds of the two CPUs (3.40 GHz turbo'd to 3.50 GHz for the i7-2600K; 3.06 GHz turbo'd to 3.20 GHz for the i7-950).
I still think the X58 platform is currently the better choice if one wants to add both a discrete RAID controller card and a digital video I/O card to the same system. However, I do not endorse either the i7-2600K or any of the quad-core i7-9xx CPUs - the former due to the relative scarcity of suitably reliable motherboards/chipsets and the platform's inherent limitations, the latter due to their relatively high heat output even at slow speeds due to their use of the older 45nm process rather than the 32nm process of the hexa-core Gulftown i7 CPUs and the Sandy Bridge CPUs (although in my particular environment and workflow and overall system budget I have achieved faster overall results with Sandy Bridge than I could with the older quad-core Nehalem).
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR RESPOSES. it is a bit overwhelming. A friend posted a "wishlist" on newegg.com. Can you guys take a look at it & tell me what changes I should make to it.
FYI: There are 2 MB's in the list
I will be running win7 64, editing avchd, mp4 & most other formats. Outputting to BR, DVD, Web. 24 gigs of ram. Long TL's of 2 hours are common. We chose sata 6.0 gb/s drives but not sure if they are faster than the 3.0's??:
The wish list comes up empty.
You will not notice a difference between SATA 2 and SATA 3 disks, because single disks are too slow to use the bandwidth. In raid configuration you may notice the difference, but beware of WD Caviar Blacks in parity raids with the TLER problems.
Sorry about that Harm. HERE IT IS & THANKS:
Can I trim some to save some money? But it's still within my budget. Any changes to speed things up?
Wish List from Newegg.com:
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Thanks for showing me the whole list.
Remarks I have:
Seagate has overcome their problems and this is the SATA 3 version. A very good disk, but if you need shave off some $$, you can also look at Hitachi, the 7K3000
For the Velociraptor, you can consider a smaller version of 300 GB.
The 470 is more than enough.
The 950 is currently the best-bang-for-the-buck CPU.
The LG is a great BR burner, I have two myself, albeit older models.
775W may be a bit low. Check here: eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Pro v2.5 and get the Pro version. Enter all your components, enter additional components you may need in the near future, set CPU load to 100% and capacitor aging to 30%. Then add around 10 - 15% for safety. Carefully check the amperage needed on the individual rails, because that may be a bottle-neck with some PSU's, as I experienced myself.
Both the Sabertooth and the UD3R are great mobo's. Look at the features you require and select on that basis.
Hope this helps.
Thanks again Harm.
I'm finding that the M/B's only have 2, 6gb sata ports. Is it a waiste to persue using the sata 3 hd's & M/B?
I will be using your recommendation: 1 sata 10,000rpm OS drive, 2 drive raid 0 for proj files etc..., 2 drive raid for footage etc...
I cant believe how many versions of video cards are out there. Is there anything in this list that catches your eyes as a less expensive alternative to the GTX480 listed above?
Steve from NY
The 470 is more than enough and will save you a lot of $$$. Almost any brand is good, but EVGA usually stands out with longer warranty, more memory and higher clock speeds.
SATA3 is the current (second) hype, next to SSD's, which hold first place. Both are overrated IMO. Luckily SATA3 disks are backward compatible with SATA2 connections and the newer disks have the advantage of 64 MB cache, which is always welcome. If you weren't looking for 2 TB disks, I would have mentioned the Samsung F3 1 TB models, that are very attractively priced. Instead, since I thought you were looking for 2 TB disks, I mentioned the Hitachi 7K3000 models, that have nearly the same $/GB.