17 Replies Latest reply on May 16, 2011 10:17 AM by Dogminder

    Is this PC good enough?

    Dogminder Level 1

      I'm looking to pgrade from CS3 to either CS5 or possibly CS5.5 but am concerned if my computer is god enough.

       

      These are my currect spes:

       

      Dell Inc. Precision WorkStation 390

      Processor: Intel Core (TM)2 CPU X6800 @ 2.93GHz

      Memory: 8GB

      Operating System System Model Windows 7 Professional (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)

      2.93 gigahertz Intel Core 2 Extreme

      64 kilobyte primary memory cache

      4096 kilobyte secondary memory cache

      64-bit ready

      Multi-core (2 total)

      Not hyper-threaded           Board: Dell Inc. 0DN075 A00

      Drives           Memory Modules c,d
      1000.05 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
      382.25 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

       

      Can anybody advise?

       

      Brian

        • 1. Re: Is this PC good enough?
          Harm Millaard Level 7

          For what?

           

          Dreamweaver? Yes.

           

          PR? No.

           

          PS or IL? Marginally.

           

          AE? No.

           

          Look here: Adobe Forums: System requirements for CS5

          • 2. Re: Is this PC good enough?
            RjL190365 Level 4

            Brian,

             

            Regrettably, I will have to agree with Harm in this case. Your system barely meets Adobe's stated minimum requirements for CS5.x for the CPU and RAM (well, 8GB is more than Adobe's stated minimum requirement) to begin with. And forget about using Premiere Pro on that system, especially since you have only a single hard drive. Premiere Pro requires a minimum of two separate hard drives in order to work properly (plus, the rest of the PC's specs are significantly below the "practical" minimum requirements to run Premiere Pro CS5.x). Using just one hard drive for absolutely everything (OS, media, output, previews, programs, cache and projects) will make even an extremely fast system relatively sluggish - not to mention that since your system's hard drive is more than half full, your system will likely perform hundreds if not thousands of times slower than a properly tuned fast system. Also, you did not state which graphics card you have on that system, especially since a not-well-supported card will slow down CS5.x MPE performance even more.

             

            In other words, just because a system just meets Adobe's stated minimum requirements does not mean that it will run that program well at all.

            • 3. Re: Is this PC good enough?
              Harm Millaard Level 7
              Regrettably, I will have to agree with Harm in this case.

               

              Does that imply you have a natural tendency to disagree with me? And you don't like to agree with me?

               

              Can't argue with that, because I hate to agree with myself.

              • 4. Re: Is this PC good enough?
                RjL190365 Level 4

                Actually, Harm, we occasionally have disagreements. But in this case, I was using the term "regrettably" to refer to the OP's system itself, not you.

                • 5. Re: Is this PC good enough?
                  Dogminder Level 1

                  No idea what PS, IL or AE is so not much help.

                   

                  Thank you anyway.

                  • 6. Re: Is this PC good enough?
                    Dogminder Level 1

                    Many thanks, that's extremely helpful and just what I wanted to know - although not what I wanted to hear!

                     

                    From what you say I'm obviously going to have to buy a new tower before upgrading,

                     

                    Not being at all computer savvy where would you suggest I go to find the ideal/optimum specifications for CS5?

                     

                    Brian

                    • 7. Re: Is this PC good enough?
                      Harm Millaard Level 7

                      PS = Photoshop

                       

                      PR = Premiere Pro

                       

                      AE = After Effects

                       

                      DW = Dreamweaver

                       

                      BR = Bridge

                       

                      AU = Audition

                       

                      EN = Encore

                       

                      AME = Adobe Media Encoder

                       

                      OL = On Location

                       

                      CT = Contribute

                       

                      ID = In Design

                       

                      UT = Ultra

                       

                      AI = Adobe Illustrator

                       

                      SB = SoundBooth

                       

                      etc.

                      • 8. Re: Is this PC good enough?
                        Dogminder Level 1

                        Thanks Harm, I understand now.

                         

                        What do you think of the following spec for a new PC:

                         


                        Processor (CPU): Intel® Core™i7 Processor Extreme Edition i7-990X (3.46GHz) 6.4GTs/12MB Cache

                         

                        Motherboard: ASUS® RAMPAGE III EXTREME: 3-Way SLI & CrossFireX, SATA 6.0GB/s, USB 3.0

                         

                        Memory (RAM): 24GB KINGSTON HYPER-X TRI-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (6 x 4GB KIT)

                         

                        Graphics Card: 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX560 Ti - 2 DVI,HDMI,VGA - DX® 11, 3D Vision Ready

                         

                        Memory - 1st Hard Disk: 500GB SERIAL ATA 3-Gb/s HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB CACHE (7,200rpm)

                         

                        2nd Hard Disk: 2TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD2002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)

                         

                        1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive: 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM

                         

                        Memory Card Reader: INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT

                         

                        Power Supply: CORSAIR 1000W PRO SERIES (HX1000) 80+ MODULAR PSU (£170)

                         

                        Processor Cooling: TITAN FENRIR EVO EXTREME HEATPIPE CPU COOLER (£39)

                         

                        Sound Card: ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

                         

                        Network Facilities: ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs

                         

                        USB Options: 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD

                         

                        Firewire & Video Editing: 3 Port IEEE 1394a Firewire PCI Card (£9)

                         

                        Operating System: Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (£109)

                        • 9. Re: Is this PC good enough?
                          Harm Millaard Level 7

                          Great specs with one important and obvious weakness. A system is only as good as the weakest link and that weakest link is your disk setup. Only two disks is the minimum requirement, but to profit from the power of the CPU and the speed of the memory, you really need to improve the disk setup.

                           

                          Look here for some tips:

                           

                          Adobe Forums: Generic Guideline for Disk Setup

                           

                          Adobe Forums: System requirements for CS5

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                          • 10. Re: Is this PC good enough?
                            Dogminder Level 1

                            Many thanks for that Harm, excellent advice which I shall certainly take.

                            • 11. Re: Is this PC good enough?
                              Dogminder Level 1

                              OK think I'm nearly ready to order the PC and have found a good supplier.

                               

                              I keep reading about a Matrox box but don't know if I need one.  I have a dual monitor set up and need to be able to view my work on an external TV. I understand I can do that by using the HDMI interface on the graphics card.

                               

                              Do I need a Matrox box and if so, what for?

                              • 12. Re: Is this PC good enough?
                                John T Smith Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                If you wish to have problems with Matrox drivers almost ALWAYS being out of date compared to Premiere Pro versions (too bad the forum search is not working properly) then by all means buy a Matrox

                                 

                                Otherwise, go to the Matrox web site and read what it claims it will do for you

                                • 13. Re: Is this PC good enough?
                                  Dogminder Level 1

                                  Harm I'm still tweaking the specs with my supplier and obviously want to be absolutely sure before ordering.

                                   

                                  Can I therefore ask your views on the following spec:

                                   

                                  1 x Fujitsu Celsius W410 Mini Tower – 2nd Generation i7-2600

                                   

                                  24GB RAM,

                                   

                                  1 x 500GB + 1 x 1TB + 1 x 2TB HDD’s

                                   

                                  Card Reader

                                   

                                  Gigabit Ethernet

                                   

                                  Blu-Ray-RW

                                   

                                  Geforce GTX580 -1.5GB Graphics

                                   

                                  14 x USB 2.0 Ports

                                   

                                  Windows 7 Professional-64 BIT

                                   

                                  Is this good enough for CS5.5?

                                   

                                  Brian

                                  • 14. Re: Is this PC good enough?
                                    Harm Millaard Level 7

                                    You mention a mini tower. For better airflow, cooling, expansion capabilities and cable management, get a big tower.

                                     

                                    The i7-2600 only supports 16 GB, not 24 GB memory because it only has 4 DIMM slots. If you can afford it, get the 2600K, because it is unlocked and easier to overclock. If your budget is tight, you can shave off some $$$ by getting the 570 instead of the 580. You will be hard pressed to notice a performance difference. For the rest it looks good and will run CS5.5 very comfortably.

                                    • 15. Re: Is this PC good enough?
                                      Dogminder Level 1

                                      From what you say it would appear this would be a more suitable option:

                                       

                                      1 x Dell Alienware Aurora

                                       

                                      Core i7-2600K – 3.4GHz

                                       

                                      16GB RAM

                                       

                                      1 x 500GB + 1 x 1TB + 1 x 2TB HDD’s

                                       

                                      Card Reader

                                       

                                      Gigabit Ethernet

                                       

                                      Blu-Ray-RW, Geforce GTX570 -1.28GB Graphics

                                       

                                      8 x USB 2.0 Ports + 2 x USB 3.0 Ports

                                       

                                      Windows 7 Professional-64 BIT

                                       

                                       

                                      Would you agree?

                                      • 16. Re: Is this PC good enough?
                                        Harm Millaard Level 7

                                        Dell has some advantages and a lot of major drawbacks.

                                         

                                        Pre:

                                         

                                        1. Good quality.

                                        2. Nice price/performance ratio in standard configuration.

                                         

                                        Cons:

                                         

                                        1. No video editing machines available.

                                        2. Exorbitant prices for anything over a standard configuration. You can buy a 1 TB drive on every corner for $ 50, at Dell you pay $ 280, same with all other components.

                                        3. Lousy, crippled BIOS and no overclocking possibility.

                                        4. Underspecced PSU for a video editing machine.

                                         


                                        If you like them to steal you blind, go for Dell, if you value your money, build yourself (best for your wallet) or go to a custom builder like ADK.

                                         

                                        In the end you will find a much better BFTB than Dell

                                        • 17. Re: Is this PC good enough?
                                          Dogminder Level 1

                                          Very interesting advice Harm

                                           

                                          The Dell machine is not supplied by Dell direct and is only marginally more expensive than the Fujitsu, so cost is not an issue here/

                                           

                                          Purely from a performance point of view, which of the 2 machines above which would you choose?