6 Replies Latest reply on Jun 26, 2011 1:48 PM by artshocx

    xdcam footage in Ppro CS5

    Rossiter Level 1

      I've been sent some NTSC XDCAM footage for use in a multi-national programme.

       

      Ppro allows me to import it.

       

      The first couple of seconds plays, then the screen becomes so covered in green artifacts it's impossible to see anything.

       

      It's not just a small area of green - it's almost the whole screen.

       

      Ppro doesn't like it... I tried to export a section to show what I see, but it shut down.

       

      I've already bought Calibrated XD for other footage, following on from help here. But the programme isn't helping with this footage.

       

      Can anyone suggest how to use the footage?

       

      In case it helps, I get this info from MediaInfo: Thanks very much

       

      General

      Complete name                    : J:\PUK_Naylor\Supplied Footage\NSG_files\file1_1.mov

      Format                           : MPEG-4

      Format_Commercial_IfAny          : XDCAM EX 35

      Format profile                   : QuickTime

      Codec ID                         : qt 

      File size                        : 1.76 GiB

      Duration                         : 6mn 58s

      Overall bit rate                 : 36.1 Mbps

      Encoded date                     : UTC 2011-06-09 12:42:53

      Tagged date                      : UTC 2011-06-09 12:44:41

      Writing library                  : Apple QuickTime

      ©TSC                             : 2997

      ©TSZ                             : 100

       

      Video

      ID                               : 1

      Format                           : MPEG Video

      Format_Commercial_IfAny          : XDCAM EX 35

      Format version                   : Version 2

      Format profile                   : Main@High

      Format settings, BVOP            : Yes

      Format settings, Matrix          : Default

      Codec ID                         : xdvb

      Codec ID/Hint                    : XDCAM

      Duration                         : 6mn 58s

      Bit rate mode                    : Variable

      Bit rate                         : 35.0 Mbps

      Width                            : 1 888 pixels

      Original width                   : 1 920 pixels

      Height                           : 1 062 pixels

      Original height                  : 1 080 pixels

      Display aspect ratio             : 16:9

      Frame rate mode                  : Constant

      Frame rate                       : 29.970 fps

      Standard                         : Component

      Color space                      : YUV

      Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0

      Bit depth                        : 8 bits

      Scan type                        : Interlaced

      Scan order                       : Top Field First

      Compression mode                 : Lossy

      Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.582

      Stream size                      : 1.68 GiB (96%)

      Title                            : Apple ƒrƒfƒIEƒƒfƒBƒAƒnƒ“ƒhƒ‰ / Apple ƒGƒCƒŠƒAƒXEƒf[ƒ^ƒnƒ“ƒhƒ‰

      Language                         : English

      Encoded date                     : UTC 2011-06-09 12:42:53

      Tagged date                      : UTC 2011-06-09 12:44:41

       

      Audio

      ID                               : 2

      Format                           : PCM

      Format settings, Endianness      : Little

      Format settings, Sign            : Signed

      Codec ID                         : sowt

      Duration                         : 6mn 58s

      Bit rate mode                    : Constant

      Bit rate                         : 1 536 Kbps

      Channel(s)                       : 2 channels

      Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz

      Bit depth                        : 16 bits

      Stream size                      : 76.6 MiB (4%)

      Title                            : Apple ƒTƒEƒ“ƒhEƒƒfƒBƒAƒnƒ“ƒhƒ‰ / Apple ƒGƒCƒŠƒAƒXEƒf[ƒ^ƒnƒ“ƒhƒ‰

      Language                         : English

      Encoded date                     : UTC 2011-06-09 12:42:53

      Tagged date                      : UTC 2011-06-09 12:44:41

       

      Menu

      ID                               : 3

      Title                            : Time Code ƒƒfƒBƒAƒnƒ“ƒhƒ‰ / Apple ƒGƒCƒŠƒAƒXEƒf[ƒ^ƒnƒ“ƒhƒ‰

      Language                         : English

      Encoded date                     : UTC 2011-06-09 12:44:41

      Tagged date                      : UTC 2011-06-09 12:44:41

       

        • 1. Re: xdcam footage in Ppro CS5
          Eric Addison User Group Manager

          Can you give a little more info - what camera was this shot with? Was the original footage transcoded to Quicktime files? I noticed that the file name is \file1_1.mov. As someone who shoots with XDCAM EX cameras, I'm pretty sure those cameras don't create .mov files, unless something has changed in one of the newer models. If you transcoded the footage, it could be a codec issue. PPro works best with the native files created by the camera,

           

          See if you can import the entire, orginal BPAV folder created by the camera into PPro, and see if that gives you better results.

          • 2. Re: xdcam footage in Ppro CS5
            Rossiter Level 1

            Eric, I can't obtain the original files, nor any further info about them -

            it was shot in Japan on behalf of my client, and it's taken long enough to

            get this far!

             

            After a lot of Googling last night, I downloaded a programme called "Super"

            (by eRightSoft) which has just successfully converted the first clip to an

            mp4 with no green artifacts.

             

            I need to experiment more with the settings (for instance, as the original

            footage is NTSC and I need PAL in the end, I'm not sure at what point to do

            this conversion - with "Super" or with Media Encoder)

             

            So, changing the topic, do you have any advice on the best way to deal with

            NTSC footage on a PAL timeline - where would the conversion best take place?

             

            Many thanks, Linda

            • 3. Re: xdcam footage in Ppro CS5
              Eric Addison User Group Manager

              Rossiter wrote:

               

              So, changing the topic, do you have any advice on the best way to deal with

              NTSC footage on a PAL timeline - where would the conversion best take place?

               

              Many thanks, Linda

              Sorry for the delay in responding - things are busy!

               

              I've always felt that the best place to do the conversion is NOT in the NLE. Edit your video in whatever format you shot it in, then take it to a professional post house that does that sort of conversion. I think you'll get much better results that way.

               

              If you don't want to do that (or budget doesn't allow it), then I'd edit NTSC and then export out a PAL file...run some quick tests so you can see how things will look first.

               

              Others on the forum may have better advice - this isn't something I've done that much (or recently), so there may be other options out there.

               

              Good luck!

              • 4. Re: xdcam footage in Ppro CS5
                artshocx

                this sounds like the same thing that happened to me with XDCAM footage earlier this year only in After Effects. did you ever figure it out? because it's happening to me again too. thanks.

                • 5. Re: xdcam footage in Ppro CS5
                  Rossiter Level 1

                  Hi, yes I converted the footage using a free programme I found called  "Super"

                  (by eRightSoft) - Google it.

                   

                  I had to experiment with the output settings for a while, but eventually I

                  found that an mp4 file at original size worked well enough for me.

                   

                  Thanks, Linda

                  • 6. Re: xdcam footage in Ppro CS5
                    artshocx Level 1

                    thanks Linda, i am just converting the footage to ProRes directly out of the Final Cut Pro timeline which is convenient enough. i guess i was just hoping that maybe Adobe had found a fix LOL – sigh… i remember the same thing was happening in Adobe Media Encoder and they had suggested a fix for that, deleting the ImporterFastMPEG decoder, but this doesn't seem to work for the After Effects issue, or it didn't for me so… really the only thing inconvenient about it other than the time to encode, is that the file sizes are so much bigger otherwise, no big deal really. thanks.