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Start by viewing the results at CS5 Benchmark http://ppbm5.com/ to find a configuration that is "nearest" your choices
PrPro does NOT do SLI and, in fact, having 2 cards MAY cause problems
The 480 does work, with the hack if not directly supported... nVidia Hack http://forums.adobe.com/thread/629557?tstart=0 - which is a simple entry in a "supported cards" file
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Here is my basic questions that I asked Adobe Norway ( I told them the spec of each machine ):
1. What is the fastes machine to use when rendering time is important on Premiere Pro and After Effects? (GPU,CPU,HDD)
ANSWER: We are not allowed to say what you should buy, but you should not be hung up in numbers cause MAC can be faster cause of the way the OS is working.
2. What maching has faster graphics card when using AE or PP in seconds not in spec and numbers
ANSWER: This question we cannot answer but you might find it on a forum on the internet... (well here I am ;-)
3. I was told that SSD disks was waste of money cause rendring was mostly used by CPU and GPU, What should I choose?
ANSWER: This is partly correct as long as the disks are fast enough. What format do you use?
me - AVCHD and H.264 with Canon 7D and Panasonic TM700 (Soon TM900)
he - Then drive speed should not be an issue cause these formats are highly compressed. You can use fast SATA disks.
1. Your Adobe contact does not know what he is talking about. The Mac OS just is not any good at mulithreading, it is Unix/Linux and is a great multitasking OS but a lousy multithreaded OS which is the way Adobe has designed their software.. We have test results proving that PC's are faster on Premiere.
2. AE does not the Adobe Mercury Playback Engine and I do not know AE performance-wise, but for Premiere it is very important and it is only available on nVidia GPU cards. Therefore any PC wins out of the Mac Book Pro because you cannot get an nVidia CUDA card.
3..For a laptop a SSD is a nice luxury because it will save you power, it will not give you any faster performance on Premiere
I have another suggestion for you. The KunsShan X7200 has a Clevo x7200 motherboard in it and it is that same as a Sager NP7280 and these same units are available from a whole number of other suppliers. It is a great unit but there is a newer unit now available with the second generation i7 Sandy Bridge processors and I know if I were buying an editing computer I would go with the (American version) of this Multicom Kunshan P170 17.3" unit. This unit will cost much less, will weigh less, use less power have a newer nVidia CUDA options and we have a tested unit results and I rate it as the fastest Premiere Pro laptop if properly configured (16 GB RAM and i7-2820QM CPU). The only disadvantage is only two internal disk drives. But that can be remedied with external drives on the eSATA port. One of several US versions of this the Sager NP8170. An English system is the Kobalt G170
WOW that was very good answer
I will check it out and come back to you as soon as I am home...
Knut, (I forgot to welcome you aboard the forum) Welcome!
Somehow you have two posts to this forum going at the same time. Maybe the moderators can fix this up
Let me introduce you to Harm and my PPBM5 (Premiere Pro BenchMark). This view that you get will not compare any Macs to the of 500 test results with this benchmark. It is only PC scores at this time. It has basically 5 tests that and 4 of them are totaled. Harm has under development a new version of this data in a sortable database. If you follow this link you will get to the link to the forum posting.
Right below Harm's link posting are my direction on how to get the laptop testing to appear. Separately, later today, I will give you a comparison on test numbers with PPBM5 testing showing you Mac results versus PC results
Thank you for very good answer and quick response
I looked at the link for the other PC but when I compare them this happens:
Machine = X7200 P170
CPU = 3.4Ghz QuadCore 2.3Ghz QuadCore (slower?)
RAM = 12GB 16GB
HDD = 3 DISKS 2 DISKS
Graphic = FX3800 / GTX480 GTX560 / GTX485
How can P170 be faster with so much less CPU 1Ghz slower than X7200
Do I have the same PC as you think of or is this the wrong PC?
Do you have a link to the English version or where I can buy it?
It was VERY CHEAP comparing to the one I was thinking about buying
Hope to hear from you soon
I found this page http://www.xoticpc.com , but I don't know if they ship to
Please take a look at the config:
Sager NP7282 / Clevo X7200
- 3% Cash Discount, FREE 8GB of Ram Upgrade & Price Match! We GUARANTEE we
have the lowest price for the same configuration!
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Glossy Screen
- 30 Day No Dead Pixel Guarantee - Special Standard Screen
- Intel® Core i7-970 (3.2-3.46GHz) 12MB L3 Cache, 4.8 GT/sec QPI, LGA 1366
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- nVidia Quadro FX5010M 4,096MB PCI-Express GDDR5
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 12,288MB DDR3 1333MHz Memory (3 SODIMMS)-
- Standard Finish
- ~ 750GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)-
- ~ 750GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- ~ 750GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- Raid 5 Stripe with Parity Enabled (Requires 3 Hard Drives)
- ~ 6X Blu-Ray Burner/Reader / 8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive
- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 3-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS)
- No Back Up Software
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Intel® Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module
- No Network Accessory
- Integrated Digital Video Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Basic Black Business Case - Included
- Primary Smart Li-ION Battery Pack - Included
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6
business days to build time)
- ~Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/
Drivers & Utilities CD's + Microsoft Office Starter 2010 - Included with OS
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll
Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs
- No Xotic PC Gear
I am Still VERY open to change to even a better machine
I found this CPU test but how can a slower cpu beat a faster cpu. Now I
don't understand CPU rating it seems...
Hello everyone and THANK YOU very much for your help and support
finding the BEST PC for Adobe Premiere and After Effects.
The Best PC available in Norway is this with help from this forum (translated to English by me):
This is the same PC as Clevo and Sager sold in other countries.:
http://www.multicom.no/SystemConfigurator.aspx?q=st:10600341;c:100560;fl:0#2194-10604050-1 ;2322-3754188-1;2203-10500502-1;2195-10600590-1;2196-10583002-4;2197-10520786-1;2199-10600 337-1;2200-10605611-1;2201-10582290-1
Multicom Kunshan P170 17.3" Full HD LED
2nd Generation Intel Core i7 Quad Core
Windows 7 Professional 64Bit
Screen = 17.3" Wide screen Full HD LED 1920x1080
Graphic = nVidia GTX485M 2GB GDDR5, 384 Cuda Cores, DX11,HDMI1.4,DVI-Dual-Link
CPU = Intel Core i7 Extreme 2920XM QuadCore, 2.5GHz, 8MB SmartCache
Bench Test High End CPU's
Chipset = Intel HM67 Express chipset (B3 ver.)
RAM = 16GB DDR3 SO-DIMM 1333MHz (4x4GB)
2xHDD = WD Scorpio® Black 750GB, 16MB Buffer, SATA-300
WIFI = Intel 6230, 802.11 a/b/g/n
Bluetooth = YES
Ethernet = 10/100/1000Mpbs nettverkskort
Webcam = 2.0Mpix
Audio = Intel HD-Audio
1 x S/PDIF digital out
1 x HDMI
1 x DVI-I
2 x USB 2.0
2 x USB 3.0
1 x eSATA - This will be used for my external drive.
1 x iEEE1394a Firewire
1 x Line input
1 x Mic. input
1 x Headset
9-in-1 card reader (MMC, RS MMC, MS, MS Pro, MS Duo, SD, Mini-SD, SDHC, SDXC)
8 Cell battery Smart Lithium Ion, 76.96WH
2 Year warranty
Does anyone has something that should be adjusted or changed? Is this a good PC for Premiere Pro and AE ?
Yes, your 750 GB drives appear to be 5400 RPM drives unless the page I pointed out to you on the P170 is wrong. Drop back to the 500 GB 7200 rpm. And personally I do not like a glossy screen. Going with the faster processor is a great idea.
I am not going to use the original disk(s)
I buy it with one small disk so it will be cheaper and change this disk and
put in another disk, so then I have two identical disks:
This is the disks that I will use:
Western Digital Scorpio® Black 750GB, 7200RPM
SATA-2, 2,5" internal, 16MB, Advanced Format (AF)
Same laptop under different names?
NB. This information has not been possible for me to get without your help.
Thank you very much
Clevo P170HM Sager NP8170 Kunshan P170 Kobalt G170 CPU 2nd Gen. i7-2920XM, 2.5-3.5GHz, (32nm, 8MB L3 cache) RAM 16GB, DDR3, 1600MHz, Dual Channel Memory Graphics nVidia GeForce GTX 485M, 2GB, GDDR5, DX11, 384 Cuda Cores HardDrive Custom - 2 x WD Scorpio® Black, 7200rpm, 750GB, 16MB Buffer, SATA-300 eSata HDD
When we all agree that we have a good PC for Adobe Premiere Pro and After Effects we can
make NEW topic called "Good PC For Video Editing In After Effects & Premiere Pro CS 5.5
Is this a good idea?
Oki I clicked "Correct Answer" and now what happens?
Is it possible to continue here or did I do something wrong?
Sorry... I am very very fresh in here
What is the best disk configuration when only 2 internal
drives and 1 external eSata drive?
1 int. for System/Boot and Media Files
1 int. for Scratch Disk
1 ext. Rendering
Where to place the windows Page File? Same as OS or Rendring or Scratch disk?
I am not sure what you expect next. You have your design are you going to get it and enjoy it? Thanks for the correct answer award.
Oh yes, you could add these to your list and I am sure there are others:
There is of course another option our friends here on the forum ADK does have a Sandy Bridge Laptop the 8600 that has all the same options available and actually has space for three hard disks, but that may not be practical for you over in Norway
Thank you very much, this has been very helpfull.
Yes I will buy this PC in August before I start study in September.
I have searched and asked around the web for 3 weeks before I got here to you guys
I will stick to this forum cause all my questions got answered in a very short time.
This is all I need I think, and I will be back with real life tests posted from my new PC so other people can check what is best or not.
Thank you very much everyone
I will start a NEW post now, for people that need Video Editing Laptop. (this will start after I get my laptop so I have something to compare with.
The title on my new thread will be:
" Best Laptop for Video Editing with After Effects & Premiere Pro CS 5.5 "
make sure whatever computer you go with has a IEEE firewire port if you want to use OnLocation.
Thank you I will do that ;-)
I allways check that these things are in place:
HDMI or DVI out