7 Replies Latest reply on Apr 2, 2012 6:29 AM by RyanPatch

    Moving projects - Still Re-Conforming!

    ExactImage Level 3

      I've read about this a lot, and thought I'd cured it - but apparently not.

       

      I have a large project (2000+ files) and used my Mac Pro to do all the indexing and conforming.  I chose to store the files with the source media so that I can move them all at the same time.  Job done - or so I thought.

       

      So, the time comes to move the project to a second editor to work on, and to save him time conforming I move the entire source media folder, complete with the .qtindex, .cfa and .pek files.   The editor opens this up on the second computer and it starts conforming all over again, creating the files all over again but with a _1 appended to the name prior to the extension.    This is crazy!  

       

      What did I miss along the way that would make it use the files I already created?

        • 2. Re: Moving projects - Still Re-Conforming!
          joe bloe premiere Level 5

          I regularly move projects across systems, but I have
          never tried to copy the Media Cache Files or Preview Files.

           

          I always plan to allow time for the 2nd system to re-generate
          the cache.  It makes for a smaller project transfer, and avoids
          any confused / corrupted / duplicated / unrecognized files, etc.

          • 3. Re: Moving projects - Still Re-Conforming!
            ExactImage Level 3

            Thanks for the reply.

             

            It takes about 5% of the time to copy the files across even a busy network than it does time to recreate them.    For rush projects (which is where we generally need additional editors involved) this time is critical.

             

            Any one have suggestions on how to avoid this re-conforming, since the files already exist?

            • 4. Re: Moving projects - Still Re-Conforming!
              joe bloe premiere Level 5

              You have to be certain that the drive letter and folder paths
              for both your project and your Media Cache files are identical on
              both systems. Premiere looks to absolute, not relative file paths
              when it is linking media on opening a project.

               

              As a test, I have copied a project from one system to
              another and included the Media Cache files.
              For the purposes of this test I deleted all of the existing
              Media Cache files on system one, opened the project
              and re-generated them on system one before transferring
              the project and Media Cache files to system two.

               

              All of the drive letters and path names for the project and
              the Media Cache files are identical on both systems.
              (I never use "Save Media Cache files next to originals...",
              they are always stored on a second RAID0 separate from
              the project and Media RAID0).

               

              On opening the project on system two, all media was properly
              linked, and no re-conforming of Media Cache files occurred.

               

              This is the first time I have used this method
              of migrating a project between systems.
              I will regularly have several current projects in different stages
              of completion, and all projects are set to generate Media Cache
              and Preview Files to a common location on my second RAID0.
              Given the cryptic names of the .cfa and .pek files, it is nearly
              impossible to determine which files go with what project.

               

              Another reason I simply allow time for Media Cache files
              to re-generate on the second system.

              • 5. Re: Moving projects - Still Re-Conforming!
                ExactImage Level 3

                Thanks again for the reply.

                 

                I've taken to renaming all the source files first with the project & source card prepending the file name, so all files are unique and matching the various cache files becomes trivial - especially when I store them with the source media.

                 

                Now, since they are stored with the source media why would it need to recreate the files again?

                 

                e.g.

                 

                Source File =    PRJCT_C10_MVI_0001.mov

                Cache Files =   PRJCT_C10_MVI_0001.pek

                 

                When copied PP insists on creating the following file IN THE SAME folder

                 

                PRJCT_C10_MVI_0001_1.pek instead if using PRJCT_C10_MVI_0001.pek.   

                 

                The paths apear to be the same on both machines...... so...... I'm stumped.

                • 6. Re: Moving projects - Still Re-Conforming!
                  joe bloe premiere Level 5
                  ...IN THE SAME folder

                  Premiere looks to absolute, not relative file paths.

                   

                  If on system one the path to the project's media is:
                  D:\Projects\Your Project\Media
                  and, on system two the path to the project's media is:
                  E:\Projects\Your Project\Media
                  ...the Media Cache files will not be linked due to the
                  differing drive letter ("D" vs. "E").

                   

                  If the absolute path to the media (and cache files) is not identical,
                  and your project's settings are to "Save Media Cache files next to originals...",
                  Premiere will re-generate new cache files "next to originals", and will
                  append the file names since they already exist.

                   

                  The paths apear to be the same on both machines..

                  Make certain that they are the same.

                   

                   

                  edit:

                  Another reason to take the time for Media Cache files
                  to re-generate on the second system is that once they
                  are there (in a common folder separate from original media),
                  you have no need to move them back and forth again if you
                  move the project between systems.

                  • 7. Re: Moving projects - Still Re-Conforming!
                    RyanPatch Level 1

                    I just want to bump up this issue for ExactImage and say I hear you, brother.  I understand what Joe Bloe is saying, but this is not the way it should be.  Just as Premiere can infer relative folder paths for media files, it should be able to check for media cache files (.pek, .cfa, .qtindex) in relative locations as well.  This is an encumberance that needs to be fixed!