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1. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
John T Smith Jul 24, 2011 4:19 PM (in response to Mr Eric J)I personally think 600w is too small a power supply
Power supply calculator http://extreme.outervision.com/index.jsp (the PRO version)
Or http://educations.newegg.com/tool/psucalc/index.html?Tpk=power%20supply%20calculator -
2. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Mr Eric J Jul 24, 2011 4:26 PM (in response to John T Smith)Hmm came out to 603w on the newegg one or if i keep my amd 5670 406w
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3. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Harm Millaard Jul 24, 2011 4:30 PM (in response to Mr Eric J)Best way to save $$ is to forget about the SSD and get an extra conventional disk like the Samsung F4 320 G for a boot disk. Add a good CPU cooler, CoolerMaster, Noctua or Prolimatech.
What was you capacitor aging on the calculation? Go for at least 750W, unless you want mysterious hangs, BSOD's and the like.
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4. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Mr Eric J Jul 24, 2011 9:59 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Samsung f4's seem to be discontinued or am i missing something? And thanks for the tips guys!
"What was you capacitor aging on the calculation?"
I don't understand this question?
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5. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Frederic Segard Jul 24, 2011 10:13 PM (in response to Mr Eric J)Since you work a lot with H.264 footage, you might want to consider a 6 core CPU, if budget allows. But it means changing your mobo, and ram config as well.
I second Harm on the SSD. It you want to save money, get a fast HD, and see what you can do with the budget reallocation for a 6-core CPU.
Do you ever plan to RAID your Blacks together? If yes, depending on the configuration, you may want to get another model.
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6. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Harm Millaard Jul 25, 2011 12:11 AM (in response to Mr Eric J)That Newegg calculator is completely useless. Use eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Pro v2.5
Get Pro version, put CPU load at 100% and capacitor aging at 30% and then add 10-15% to the calculated wattage for safety.
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7. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Mr Eric J Jul 25, 2011 7:56 AM (in response to Frederic Segard)Frédéric Segard wrote:
Since you work a lot with H.264 footage, you might want to consider a 6 core CPU, if budget allows. But it means changing your mobo, and ram config as well.
I second Harm on the SSD. It you want to save money, get a fast HD, and see what you can do with the budget reallocation for a 6-core CPU.
Do you ever plan to RAID your Blacks together? If yes, depending on the configuration, you may want to get another model.
Wow $1000 for a six-core! that is definately out of my budget we're trying to get this to $1200 and at most $1500, and no i'm not planning on RAID.
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8. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Frederic Segard Jul 25, 2011 7:55 AM (in response to Mr Eric J)Eric,
A capacitor is an electronic component who's main function is to keep a charge. There are many uses for a capacitor depending on the circuit type. But in a power supply, it will help regulate the voltage at a constant level. There is nothing worse for a power supply then a capacitor that becomes unstable, or simply pops. It can vary from total power supply failure, to intermittent annoying little hickups that will have you searching endlessly, trying to figure out what the problem is with your computer. These problems can range from performance degradation, minor little glitches, to hang ups, BSODs, to just plain old resets out of nowhere. A defective PSU is often overlooked as the main source of problem.
So in a manner of speaking, capacitor aging is due to heat problems caused by maxed out power supplies. The percentage is the headroom to keep your capacitors in a "happy" zone. This headroom translates into a PSU that will never run at it's full capacity, and will extend the life expectancy to the unit. Otherwise, you'll have an unstable system as time goes by. The PSU is the most important component in the computer. Cheap solutions will cause major grief. Get the size you need with room to grow, but get a good one.
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9. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Mr Eric J Jul 25, 2011 7:56 AM (in response to Frederic Segard)Frédéric Segard wrote:
Eric,
A capacitor is an electronic component who's main function is to keep a charge. There are many uses for a capacitor depending on the circuit type. But in a power supply, it will help regulate the voltage at a constant level. There is nothing worse for a power supply then a capacitor that becomes unstable, or simply pops. It can vary from total power supply failure, to intermittent annoying little hickups that will have you searching endlessly, trying to figure out what the problem is with your computer. These problems can range from performance degradation, minor little glitches, to hang ups, BSODs, to just plain old resets out of nowhere. A defective PSU is often overlooked as the main source of problem.
So in a manner of speaking, capacitor aging is due to heat problems caused by maxed out power supplies. The percentage is the headroom to keep your capacitors in a "happy" zone. This headroom translates into a PSU that will never run at it's full capacity, and will extend the life expectancy to the unit. Otherwise, you'll have an unstable system as time goes by. The PSU is the most important component in the computer. Cheap solutions will cause major grief. Get the size you need with room to grow, but get a good one.
I've dropped the video card, ssd, and the new psu i should be good to go now with my 600w right? If my business takes off then i think i'll be able to afford the PSU and video card. You guys have been very helpful and very nice!
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10. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Frederic Segard Jul 25, 2011 8:05 AM (in response to Mr Eric J)The 970 is around $570, vs a 990x at $1000.
H.264 is really CPU intensive. You'll be glad you have these 2 extra cores. If you were running with anything else, codec-wise, 4-core would be fine. But since you are on a budget, I understand your dilema. Just get the fastest 4-core your budget allows.
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11. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Frederic Segard Jul 25, 2011 8:10 AM (in response to Mr Eric J)Good. An SSD will put a dent in your budget.
But what will you get for a video card in your system?
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12. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Mr Eric J Jul 25, 2011 9:09 AM (in response to Frederic Segard)Frédéric Segard wrote:
But what will you get for a video card in your system?
I have an amd 5670, for now i'll just not have the accelerated effects. Could you please recomend a mobo? It looks like an i7-980 is my best bet, for a mobo i want the capactiy for at least 16gb of memory i might start with 8gb to keep it in budget, also i of course plan on adding and subtracting harddrives so having lots of sata ports would be nice.
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13. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
John T Smith Jul 25, 2011 9:47 AM (in response to Mr Eric J)With an i7-980 motherboard you will want DDR3 ram, which is best in sets of 3, so you should buy 3each 4gig for 12gig to start... leaving room for 3 more ram chips and a max of 24gig
Please reconsider your "just enough" 600watt power supply... as has been stated, a power supply that is constantly running at or near maximum output is not going to last very long, and MAY cause problems
I have an i7-930 (1.5 years old) with 12gig ram (6x2gig) and 3 hard drives and 1 DVD burner and nVidia GTX 285 and I have an 850watt power supply
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14. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Mr Eric J Jul 25, 2011 10:03 AM (in response to John T Smith)John T Smith wrote:
With an i7-980 motherboard you will want DDR3 ram, which is best in sets of 3, so you should buy 3each 4gig for 12gig to start... leaving room for 3 more ram chips and a max of 24gig
Please reconsider your "just enough" 600watt power supply... as has been stated, a power supply that is constantly running at or near maximum output is not going to last very long, and MAY cause problems
I have an i7-930 (1.5 years old) with 12gig ram (6x2gig) and 3 hard drives and 1 DVD burner and nVidia GTX 285 and I have an 850watt power supply
Ok i have added a power supply, mobo, ram, and cpu, please double check, i think i can convice my wife that it is ok to be $40 over budget
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=20771567
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15. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Frederic Segard Jul 25, 2011 11:24 AM (in response to Mr Eric J)Mr Eric J wrote:
Ok i have added a power supply, mobo, ram, and cpu, please double check, i think i can convice my wife that it is ok to be $40 over budget
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber =20771567
That particular config looks good to me. But if you ever want to upgrade your disks to a parity RAID, I suggest you get rid of the WD Blacks. If you used them individually, or in RAID0, they are good drives. If you do think going RAID down the road, I suggest the Hitachi 7K3000 series, and to keep within budget, get the 1.5TB version at $65 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145520). At that price, compared to the Blacks, you could get 4 drives. 4 drives is better then 3 with PPro. ;-)
You have a choice:
- Get 4x 1.5TB Hitachi's at $65 each (Total $260 for 6TB), over 3x 1TB WD Blacks at $90 each (Total $270 for 3TB). Bonus, the Hitachi's would be RAID ready, and certified by Areca if you took an Areca card.
- Thinking long term, get 3 Hitachi's, and swap the PSU for a Corsair Gold series PSU instead. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015) You can always add a drive later. And you'll be uder budget. It's easier and less costly to add a drive later, then the hassle to change PSU. The importance of a good PSU is crittical. Trust me, do yourself a favor, get the Gold!!! The Enthusiast, whiile good on paper, is just a gaming PSU, and not designed for rigourous worstation style stability.
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16. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Mr Eric J Jul 25, 2011 11:58 AM (in response to Frederic Segard)Thanks Frédéric you've saved me $30 and got me more storange and a better PSU!
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17. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Frederic Segard Jul 25, 2011 12:13 PM (in response to Mr Eric J)Cool! And if you want to save a few buck more, have a look at the HAF X casing (there's a promo on) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225. For that class of casing, I actually like the HAF X better. But that's my "optional" subjective point-of-view.
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18. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
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Frederic Segard Jul 25, 2011 12:29 PM (in response to Mr Eric J)Oh! Sorry! I was comparing the price I got from my local vendor!
24" is fine for the HAF 932. Heck,standard 18" is long enough. Unless you want to have a nice cable management that will follow a nice path, in which case, better get 36"
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20. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Mr Eric J Jul 25, 2011 12:52 PM (in response to Frederic Segard)ok 24" it is, and it looks like for 24gb i'll have to use the windows anytime upgrade since home premium only allows 16gb.
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21. Re: Please provide feedback on my pc build
Frederic Segard Jul 25, 2011 1:08 PM (in response to Mr Eric J)Indeed, if you think you'll upgrade to 24GB, you'll need Win Pro. In the mean time, you can do without if you already have Win Home.



