Placing a PDF is, essentially, the same thing a placing a picture of the PDF page (and you can specify which page, or multiple pages, to place if you "show import options" and there are a number of scripts available for placing all the pages at once). You don't get editable content, and since there is no real text, ther is no wrap.
There is a plugin, I believe from Recosoft, called PDF2ID that will allow you to OPEN rather than place a PDF in ID, and it fives you editable text and objects. I've never used it, and I have no idea what it would do with something like a family tree, but htere may be a demo available for you to try out.
Thank you for your response. I went to the Recosoft website. They
require a written request for a trial version to which they might reply
within 72 hours. If I do not hear within this time, they have declined
my request. Just to correct one impression. The entire 393 page document
is all text, it is not a family tree chart, with boxes etc. It also has
superscript end-note numbers. The cost for the standard version of the
software is approximately $300.
They require a written request for a trial version to which they might reply within 72 hours. If I do not hear within this time, they have declined my request.
Yeah, it's not the friendliest demo distro I've ever seen...
I am not trying to develop anything.
What I want to do is write a Family History Book. I have exported from Family Tree Maker a pdf file which is highly structured. It reads perfectly in Adobe Reader X, It is a 393 page document. I want to break it up into 5 Chapters, Generations 1-5, 6-10, etc with one chapter of Endnotes.AND I want to insert photos, documents,tables etc because this document contains no illustrations. I thought learning InDesign would help me do that.
Unfortunately, because it's already in PDF format (meant to be read or printed, not changed or edited), you would wind up having to do a fair bit of work to get it out of PDF format and into InDesign, or into any other editable format.
5. I have gone back and reviewed the learning videos several times on text wrapping.
Is it because the pdf file is so structured? If I imported it as a rtf would it wrap?
This seems so simple in the video but I am totally frustrated. There does not seem much point in upgrading to CS5 if I cannot learn this simple task. I thought that InDesign would give me a better product than Microsoft Word which I have used in the past to do what I want to do here.
Yeah, if you had Acrobat Pro you could save a .doc or a .rtf out of the PDF, and either open it up for editing in Word, or place it in ID. Either one would probably involve a lot of work - once again, PDF is a distribution format, not one meant for editing.
InDesign will give you a better product (and a more reliable, less fickle environment for long documents) but the learning curve is, as you're finding out, quite steep for a pro-grade page layout tool. The hassle of working with a 400-page book in Word might make it worthwhile for you to clamber up that steep learning curve. Personally, all of my long-doc experience in Word involves crashes and corrupted files and page elements that jump around for no good reason; I'd rather eat glass than try a book like yours in Word. However, you have a cost-benefit analysis ahead of you: You obviously already know how to work in Word. Are you willing to deal with Word-related hassles, in order to avoid needing to learn a brand-new tool you'll only use once? Keep in mind that the tool in question is challenging to use & expects that you already know a lot about document production/graphic design/desktop publishing/et cetera.
No matter what, it sounds to me like there's nothing in CS5 or CS5.5 that you would need for your project that is not available in previous versions of InDesign. Should you elect to learn about ID for your project, I don't think you need to spend any money on upgrades.
Do you have Acrobat as part of a suite package, or did you just buy ID and Photoshop? If you have Acrobat, I think it would be worth at least trying to save out of the PDF in some other format, like Word or RTF, that ID can place.
Peter and Joel,
Thanks both of you for your help. I got a very prompt response from the
company and tried the conversion program out, but it does not keep the
indentation when listing the children of a couple. It makes it into 1
paragraph with all the children data running together. You may think
this is trivial but when you get to families of great and great great
grandparents they were often 8-13 children strong. They also will only
allow you to convert page 1 of a document. Pages 2-10 are made of X and
x's, which allows you to guess at the structure. However, I was able to
place a photo and do the text wrap on Page 1! The program does keep the
superscript numbers of the end notes in place, something that conversion
to Word docs does not do.