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1. Re: Stroke on Font does not Display Crisp in Digital PDF
Daniel Flavin Aug 12, 2011 11:47 AM (in response to RichardM0701)What OS? (That type looks rasterized)
Are you Exporting to pdf or via another means.
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2. Re: Stroke on Font does not Display Crisp in Digital PDF
RichardM0701 Aug 12, 2011 12:12 PM (in response to Daniel Flavin)Windows 7. I am file>exporting to PDF (print).
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3. Re: Stroke on Font does not Display Crisp in Digital PDF
Daniel Flavin Aug 12, 2011 12:50 PM (in response to RichardM0701)I cannot get anything other than a perfect result; but Acrobat's Page display here may not match yours.
. I understand InDesign uses tiny lines to make a stroke, so it may not be rounding the corners of the font correctly
I don't think that is the case at all. Transparency on the page can cause rasterization, hence always put the type on a higher level, when possible, so as not to have it interact with Transparency flattening. I doubt have any Trans on that page however.
Is the type in Acrobat, at 2500% - 6000% zoom, smooth?
Exported to Press Quality...
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4. Re: Stroke on Font does not Display Crisp in Digital PDF
RichardM0701 Aug 12, 2011 1:26 PM (in response to Daniel Flavin)Thanks for your help on this. I see the problems clearly at the zoom settings you requested. You mentioned Transperancy. I do not get this issue whenI print to PDF vs export. Is there a way to turn off transperency?
Here are some screens.
The text and stroke settings in InDesign:
The Print Settings:
Zoom on PDF x6400:
Zoom at x150:
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5. Re: Stroke on Font does not Display Crisp in Digital PDF
P Spier Aug 12, 2011 3:38 PM (in response to RichardM0701)Please post a link to a sample page.
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6. Re: Stroke on Font does not Display Crisp in Digital PDF
P Spier Aug 13, 2011 12:07 PM (in response to RichardM0701)Richard, I've been playing aroundwith your file, and it looks to me like this is a display anomaly in Acrobat, it is highly dependent on the zoom factor, possibly dependent on position on the page, not 100% reproducible, and font dependent.
When I look at your PDF, I can see the same problem with the "u" on page 1 that you illustrated above. If I export a new doc, I can see the same general problems at fit width, but I can't get the problem with the "u".
I can create a new text bolck using the same font specs in a new doc and it behaves the same as your file, and I can add my text frame to your file and get identical artifacts (when I can see them). I ONLY get these artifacts with Arial, however, out of the half dozen fonts I tried, which says to me that it may have to do with hinting, or lack thereof, in the font, and smoothing in Acrobat, but I'm not a font expert. As far as I can tell, this is not an ID issue.
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7. Re: Stroke on Font does not Display Crisp in Digital PDF
RichardM0701 Aug 14, 2011 9:12 PM (in response to P Spier)Hi Peter.
Thanks for your time and help. Your testing aligns with mine. I will continue to pursue this issue with Acrobat community and see if anything comes up. In the mean time, since the File>Print to PDF works fine and looks OK, I will make two PDF files (a print PDF and an export PDF). I will then take the exported PDF and use Acrobat to replace the body pages with the pages of the print PDF. This will maintain my hyperlink and bookmarks and give the document a better look.
Thanks again for our help. If I find anything out I will repost to this thread.
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8. Re: Stroke on Font does not Display Crisp in Digital PDF
P Spier Aug 15, 2011 5:11 AM (in response to RichardM0701)Ir would be simpler just to use a better font. or maybe to use the bold version instead of stroking. I forgot to ask you why you needed to do that since the font clearly has a bold italic variant?
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9. Re: Stroke on Font does not Display Crisp in Digital PDF
RichardM0701 Aug 15, 2011 7:32 AM (in response to P Spier)This document goes through a translation process where we specify the fonts that we want to be replaced when we download it from the server. For example, for Chinese, we specify that we want all the Arial to be replaced with Sim Sun. Unfortunately, when we get it back and open the file, Sim Sun does not have a bold font and says there is font missing. The same is true for MS Mincho and also some other fonts for other languages. We have a font approved by our translators for accuracy so we use a stroke on it to fake the bold.










