8 Replies Latest reply on Aug 15, 2011 8:16 PM by Colin Brougham

    Can't render preview on some clips

    baddie1

      In my timeline I've got a bunch of clips - some have yellow lines above them in the render bar, some red, some green.  And then some have no lines at all, it's these that are the problem.

       

      When I tell it to 'render preview' it will make all the clips with yellow and red lines turn to green just fine, but does nothhing with the clips that have no lines above them at all, it's like it thinks 'these clips are so easy to play I dont need to render preview, they dont have effects or anything on them', however it is sorely mistaken because when I play back the preview everything plays fine except those clips, which stutter and skip (because they are uncompressed HD video).

       

      Is there a way to force every clip to 'render preview', not just the ones Premiere thinks need it?

      clip problem.jpg

        • 1. Re: Can't render preview on some clips
          Ann Bens Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          You cannot render them for preview as they already run native.

          You do can lower the playback resolution in both monitors as your machine can probably not handle the uncompressed files.

          You will find the settings under the rgb coloured button.

          • 2. Re: Can't render preview on some clips
            baddie1 Level 1

            Unfortunately that didnt help, I set it down to 1/4th size (lowest it would go) and it still was stuttering during those clips.

             

            Best answer I can think of is to make an effect with .001 opacity across the whole project to juke adobe into thinking all clips need preview rendering.  This offends me as a human being, hopefully someone has a better solution.

            • 3. Re: Can't render preview on some clips
              the_wine_snob Level 9

              Welcome to the forum.

               

              Can you give us the full specs. of your computer, and especially the GPU (make model), plus the installed video driver? The more detail, the better.

               

              Good luck,

               

              Hunt

              • 4. Re: Can't render preview on some clips
                baddie1 Level 1

                Hi Bill, thanks for your welcome and your help.  Here's my computer specs:

                 

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                System Information
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                   Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.110622-1503)
                           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
                System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
                       System Model: Studio 540     
                               BIOS: BIOS Date: 08/25/09 12:43:46 Ver: 0.0.1
                          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q9550  @ 2.83GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
                             Memory: 6144MB RAM
                Available OS Memory: 6144MB RAM
                          Page File: 6539MB used, 5745MB available
                        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
                    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
                DX Setup Parameters: Not found
                   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
                System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
                    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled

                 


                ---------------
                Display Devices
                ---------------
                          Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTS 240
                       Manufacturer: NVIDIA
                          Chip type: GeForce GTS 240
                           DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
                     Display Memory: 3817 MB
                   Dedicated Memory: 1001 MB
                      Shared Memory: 2815 MB
                       Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
                       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
                      Monitor Model: SONY TV
                         Monitor Id: SNYEA01
                        Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
                        Output Type: DVI
                        Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
                Driver File Version: 8.17.0012.6658 (English)
                     Driver Version: 8.17.12.6658
                        DDI Version: 10
                       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
                  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
                   Driver Date/Size: 1/7/2011 20:27:00, 12859496 bytes
                        WHQL Logo'd: n/a
                    WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
                          Vendor ID: 0x10DE
                          Device ID: 0x0607
                          SubSys ID: 0x073610DE
                        Revision ID: 0x00A2
                Driver Strong Name: oem58.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1:Section005:8.17.12.6658:pci\ven_10de&dev_0607
                     Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
                        Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C
                     D3D9 Overlay: Supported
                            DXVA-HD: Supported
                       DDraw Status: Enabled
                         D3D Status: Enabled
                         AGP Status: Enabled

                • 5. Re: Can't render preview on some clips
                  Colin Brougham Level 6

                  Footage type and source?

                  • 6. Re: Can't render preview on some clips
                    baddie1 Level 1

                    Footage is 720p, 60fps, recorded HDMI input on a capture card, stored in a JPEG codec of some kind (not sure how to find the exact name of the codec)

                    • 7. Re: Can't render preview on some clips
                      Colin Brougham Level 6

                      Use MediaInfo. Post a report on one of the files using the Text View mode.

                       

                      I suspect you are trying to edit these off a single drive (maybe your system drive), and it's just not fast enough to maintain smooth playback.

                      • 8. Re: Can't render preview on some clips
                        baddie1 Level 1

                        Thanks Colin, here is my info:

                         

                        General
                        Complete name                    : K:\final\1 Introductory\3 Tree Run.avi
                        Format                           : AVI
                        Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
                        File size                        : 56.4 MiB
                        Duration                         : 7s 567ms
                        Overall bit rate                 : 62.5 Mbpsve

                         

                        Video
                        ID                               : 0
                        Format                           : JPEG
                        Codec ID                         : MJPG
                        Duration                         : 7s 567ms
                        Bit rate                         : 60.7 Mbps
                        Width                            : 1 280 pixels
                        Height                           : 720 pixels
                        Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
                        Frame rate                       : 60.000 fps
                        Color space                      : YUV
                        Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:2
                        Bit depth                        : 8 bits
                        Scan type                        : Progressive
                        Compression mode                 : Lossy
                        Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 1.098
                        Stream size                      : 54.7 MiB (97%)

                         

                        Audio
                        ID                               : 1
                        Format                           : PCM
                        Format settings, Endianness      : Little
                        Format settings, Sign            : Signed
                        Codec ID                         : 1
                        Codec ID/Hint                    : Microsoft
                        Duration                         : 7s 567ms
                        Bit rate mode                    : Constant
                        Bit rate                         : 1 536 Kbps
                        Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
                        Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
                        Bit depth                        : 16 bits
                        Stream size                      : 1.39 MiB (2%)
                        Interleave, duration             : 946 ms (56.75 video frames)

                         

                        I am editing it off a seperate hard drive, an external harddrive connected via USB.  So that could very well cause it.

                        I'd like to keep editing it there though, if there's some way I could tell premiere to cache the files even though they look like an agreeable format...