11 Replies Latest reply on Sep 6, 2011 4:28 PM by Frustrated in AZ

    How to convert ebook from ADE to PDF, pain to do it, but it can be done

    RCadow11

      Print out the ebook

      on paper and then scan it into PDF format.  Volia!  you'll have the book in PDF format, a pain to do it, but you can do it and that bypasses the entire eBook license.  Every Adobe scam has a work around. Adobe selling false security to make a buck.. They know you can print the book out on paper and then scan it and make it a PDF, but somehow they sell false security and get these publishers to buy into their false security products.  Abobe should be fined billions of $$$$$$ to teach them a lesson.

        • 1. Re: How to convert ebook from ADE to PDF, pain to do it, but it can be done
          Frustrated in AZ Level 4

          I won't mince words.

           

          You're breaking the law if you circumvent the controls built into the ebook

          you've decided to copy without publisher's permission.

           

          The publishers (not Adobe) have decided to incorporate copyright security

          into the electronic publishing business.  It's not a 'scam', it's the law.

          It's not 'false security', it's the industry standard.  And, in case you

          hadn't noticed, you don't pay for ADE, so they're not making a buck.

           

          Other points: the publishers have decided whether you can print a book or

          not.  If the ebook is protected by digital rights, you can't do that

          anyway.  Next, your ethics are way off base if you think you can circumvent

          the law and get away with it.

           

          If anyone should be fined, it's you for copyright violations.

           

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          • 2. Re: How to convert ebook from ADE to PDF, pain to do it, but it can be done
            RCadow11 Level 1

            Frustrated, I only wrote that to piss people off at Adobe.  But it figures there is someone out there who is a stone thrower!

              Let him who has never once sinned in his life point out and correct others who do.  Hypocrite!  We all are.

            • 3. Re: How to convert ebook from ADE to PDF, pain to do it, but it can be done
              Frustrated in AZ Level 4

              Remember your audience is bigger than the people at Adobe whom you think may

              be reading this board.  After a life in corporate America chasing crooks, I

              don't like the sound of your suggestions.  That's not hypocracy.

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              • 4. Re: How to convert ebook from ADE to PDF, pain to do it, but it can be done
                RCadow11 Level 1

                Well since you are so adamant about chasing crooks and wrong doers, it is my experience you are in fact one yourself, and the fact that others do what

                you yourself do aggravates you to the point that you want to get them all, who do exactly as you do.  you remind me of the cops who give out tickets for speeding, yet they themselves break those very laws.  I bet you have copied CDs, DVDs, etc knowing you were breaking the very laws you run around trying to catch others doing.  Now tell my you haven't done something against the law, one law, you haven't broken one law in your life, you stone thrower, and yet I am a stone thrower that is why I recognize you as one too.  You are a hypocrite.  I bet you even finagled your expense reports from time to time and fraudulently collected money you should not have collected.  you expose yourself while attempting to expose others.  This I am absolutely certain of.  You are indeed a hypocrite.

                And I have nothing to hide.  I know very well this is the Internet and do not need to be informed of ALL HUMANS can read this if they happen across it.  I have nothing to hide, unlike you.

                 

                Now what you have to figure out is this, just because I suggested it, does it mean I myself did it?  I’ll ease your pain. I can’t afford to use up paper and ink to print out 150 pages on my printer just to get over on some goofy application that won’t let me read the book I bought the way I like to read it, but stifles me to their way of forcing people to read what they have paid for.

                • 5. Re: How to convert ebook from ADE to PDF, pain to do it, but it can be done
                  Frustrated in AZ Level 4

                  Sticks and stones...  FYI, you will lose your bets.

                   

                  If you want to tell Adobe what you think of their software, you can use the

                  'Contact Us' area on their website.  Be specific, not bombastic, and I'd bet

                  (there's that word again!) they would answer you.  They do need all the

                  constructive feedback they can get, because this product isn't up to the

                  same level as other similar ones.  If you have something to contribute to

                  the forum by way of assistance to other users, please feel free.  But

                  personal attacks don't count.

                   

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                  • 6. Re: How to convert ebook from ADE to PDF, pain to do it, but it can be done
                    angi0203

                    @Frustrated

                     

                    it's Ok Frustrated but, why can't I transfer an e-pub from my registered PC to my wife e-book reader (which is,of course, also a registered user) and back?

                    I can do this w/o copyright problem w/ all my paper books!

                     

                    We don't need to do "surprised" if people seek (and will find) a way around this stupid restriction.

                    I wonder why the publisher don't learn from the mp3 market, do they get money from the paper industries?

                     

                    so long,

                    angi

                    • 7. Re: How to convert ebook from ADE to PDF, pain to do it, but it can be done
                      Frustrated in AZ Level 4

                      To paraphrase Sherlock Holmes: the difference is 'electronic', dear Watson!

                      When you buy a physical book, the royalties are paid by the bookseller to

                      the publisher, who then pays the author.  The publishing industry has had

                      real problems getting the same process to work with electronic

                      publications.  They didn't want books to be copied the way that music was.

                      The way the Digital Millenium Copyright Act of 2000 was implemented is their

                      answer.  Unfortunately, there's some 'wiggle room' in the implementation

                      strategy that lets publishers do things differrently, where the paper

                      methods were nearly uniform across the board.  And that's where we as

                      consumers get caught.  If Publisher A says 'no copies, no printing', that's

                      implemented electronically (whether the software is ADE or something else).

                      If Publisher B says 'copies allowed, no printing', that's implemented

                      electronically.  Your bookseller has nothing to say about it. The library

                      where you're borrowing an ebook can't change that either - they add

                      electronic tags that relate to the loan of the material.

                       

                      So, thanks to Napster, we're stuck with the system we have.

                       

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                      • 8. Re: How to convert ebook from ADE to PDF, pain to do it, but it can be done
                        angi0203 Level 1

                         

                        I would like to appoint that:

                         

                        1. the mp3 sellers (Apple in front of all) did begin to make money w/ the stuff after drm got thrown out the window.
                        In the consequence also the music labels began to make money with it.
                        One would have to be blind not to see that.

                         

                        2. its a matter of time until alternative reader who outsmart the drm will be available (like the acrobat reader and writer are available now).

                         

                        So what is the point for those people to make the handling so difficult for the ones who buy an pay for the books?

                         

                         

                        It seems to me, they act like the one that castrate himself to play a prank to his wife  :-p !

                         


                        Where I living at the present time, they would say "Hosenscheisser".

                        And is not the fault of Napster (or whatever) but from the Hosenscheisser who didn't see the obvious.



                        PS: I still buy music on CD!

                         


                        • 9. Re: How to convert ebook from ADE to PDF, pain to do it, but it can be done
                          Frustrated in AZ Level 4

                          Time will tell.  Until it does (and it's been about a dozen years so far),

                          digital rights management is the norm.  People who try to circumvent DRM

                          controls could be prosecuted for 'theft' of another's intellectual property,

                          just as those who were prosecuted for using Napster and downloading

                          materials onto their computers.  And, as it's been this long since the

                          implementation of DRM in epublications, they've had plenty of time.  So far

                          - no solutions....

                           

                          I'm not arguing with you, but I do want to point out that DRM did not get

                          'thrown out the window' when Apple invented the iTunes store - it's still

                          there.  Apple created a different business model that sold you the music for

                          a token amount.  They also pay royalties to the creators.  Ditto with any

                          other websites that sell you the music.  Both parties are satisfied by this

                          arrangement - and it's essentially the same one that has been implemented

                          with epublications.

                           

                          BTW: the DRM manager in Acrobat Reader is the same as in ADE - Adobe Content

                          Manager.  It's there also in other products, such as Google's stuff.

                           

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                          • 10. Re: How to convert ebook from ADE to PDF, pain to do it, but it can be done
                            angi0203 Level 1

                             

                            Of course are royalties to the authors to be paid! This is not the question.

                             

                            We pay it every time we buy a paper book or an e-book, but you can give the paper book to a friend to read and get it back when he is done with it.

                             

                            Most people (and I am one of them) want to do the same w/ an e-book they have paid for.

                             

                            No more, no less.

                             

                             

                             

                            Napster an others file-sharing didn’t die because of the prosecutors, they died because they became obsolete. The vast majority of people don’t want to steal.

                             

                            When you buy music in a store today, you can copy it from an MP3 player to another. You didn’t steal it, you bought it!

                             

                             

                             

                            In my opinion, I have the RIGHT to give to someone else something I have paid for, no matter whether it is a CD or a MP3 or a paper book or an e-book or software.

                             

                            I lived a couple of year in South Africa and as I left, I gave my computers and respective software to a school near Brits. Why should this not be allowed w/ an e-book? This is simply ridiculous!

                             

                             

                             

                            BTW: we don’t need to pretend to be unaware of it. The decryption SW is already available for sale.